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Old Ebonheart Section File
This is the Old Ebonheart Section File (formerly M3A1). All work on OE will be done on this file, and this file only.
Attached is the actual merge. Thanks to arvisrend and Sload for the post format.
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- If you want to edit this file (and are a developer), please ask the section leads for approval first (ninja edit: that's Swiftoak, Rats, gro-Dhal or Haplo). IRC is the easiest way to do that.
- If you want to do any kind of edits on the file and you have been greenlighted, please make sure that noone else has claimed it and then please claim it for yourself. Claiming the file means making a post (here in this thread) in which you explicitly announce in boldface that you are now working on the file. Once you either have made your changes or decide that you aren't going to, or just want to take a break, drop your claim by again announcing in boldface that you are no longer editing the file (and, obviously, uploading your latest version along with relevant information). To make this efficient, don't shy away from dropping and claiming liberally. If you know you have no time to work on the file for the next 2 days, do drop it -- maybe someone else will ninja in some edits in that time. Of course, you should not claim the file if someone else has it currently claimed.
- You don't need to get greenlighted by the section leads every time you want to re-claim the file; one approval (normally) lasts forever. That is, unless you're intent to make big (and/or possibly controversial) changes (e. g., new quests, or an overhaul of a region, or a new plantation); such changes should always be first suggested, then discussed and only then implemented (or not).
- The newest version of the file is always going to be attached to a recent post (not the first post in the thread, because not everyone has editing rights). Please be sure to change the version number after every iteration, so we can keep track of what file is the latest.
-Any proposal for additional work to be done on these files should be made in a separate thread. Once a proposal is worked out & approved by the section team, it will be put into the list of things to be done on that merge.
-Posts in the merge threads should be limited to posts about the status of the file - who is working on it, who wants to work on it to do what, what needs to be done still, et cetera. New ideas or questions should go into other threads.
SPECIFICS:
07/07/2014: As of this date, all work should be focused on the town proper, and not the castle. We have yet to iron out our plans for it. I repeat, PLEASE DO NOT START ANY WORK ON THE CASTLE.
Current priorities include merging all of OE town ints into the file. Seneca is working on reviewing the last few. You can view the maps in Rats' thread [url=http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=24312]HERE[/url].
There is also an [url=http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?p=319902#319902]outstanding proposal for some minor exterior work[/url] concerning widening the Thirr and adding a few minor islands to the river delta to give it a more natural look. (Similar to Gnomey's work on the North-Andothren merge).
Attached is the actual merge. Thanks to arvisrend and Sload for the post format.
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- If you want to edit this file (and are a developer), please ask the section leads for approval first (ninja edit: that's Swiftoak, Rats, gro-Dhal or Haplo). IRC is the easiest way to do that.
- If you want to do any kind of edits on the file and you have been greenlighted, please make sure that noone else has claimed it and then please claim it for yourself. Claiming the file means making a post (here in this thread) in which you explicitly announce in boldface that you are now working on the file. Once you either have made your changes or decide that you aren't going to, or just want to take a break, drop your claim by again announcing in boldface that you are no longer editing the file (and, obviously, uploading your latest version along with relevant information). To make this efficient, don't shy away from dropping and claiming liberally. If you know you have no time to work on the file for the next 2 days, do drop it -- maybe someone else will ninja in some edits in that time. Of course, you should not claim the file if someone else has it currently claimed.
- You don't need to get greenlighted by the section leads every time you want to re-claim the file; one approval (normally) lasts forever. That is, unless you're intent to make big (and/or possibly controversial) changes (e. g., new quests, or an overhaul of a region, or a new plantation); such changes should always be first suggested, then discussed and only then implemented (or not).
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-Posts in the merge threads should be limited to posts about the status of the file - who is working on it, who wants to work on it to do what, what needs to be done still, et cetera. New ideas or questions should go into other threads.
SPECIFICS:
07/07/2014: As of this date, all work should be focused on the town proper, and not the castle. We have yet to iron out our plans for it. I repeat, PLEASE DO NOT START ANY WORK ON THE CASTLE.
Current priorities include merging all of OE town ints into the file. Seneca is working on reviewing the last few. You can view the maps in Rats' thread [url=http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=24312]HERE[/url].
There is also an [url=http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?p=319902#319902]outstanding proposal for some minor exterior work[/url] concerning widening the Thirr and adding a few minor islands to the river delta to give it a more natural look. (Similar to Gnomey's work on the North-Andothren merge).
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Derp.
New file with region paint and fixed cell names for the city.
New file with region paint and fixed cell names for the city.
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New file, all interiors (in the town) have been merged (not linked yet) except the claims 278, 725, 765, 591. The last is the sewers being worked on by Rats, the other three are in final reviewing.
Will try to get them linked soon.
Will try to get them linked soon.
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Releasing file
-All interiors in Old Ebonheart's town (with the exception of aforementioned claims) have been merged, linked, and named. Anyone who wants to take a stab at basic NPCing should be able to now, and is of course free to change the cell names at their discretion.
-Did some minor cluttering of back alleys. Someone should add some more stuff like misc items, crates, etc to give OE's back alleys a seedier character. Added some awnings to some strucutres. I also added a table outside the grocer, though didn't clutter it. Someone should add things like foodstuffs on display and have someone standing outside. That area feels kind of barren.
-All interiors in Old Ebonheart's town (with the exception of aforementioned claims) have been merged, linked, and named. Anyone who wants to take a stab at basic NPCing should be able to now, and is of course free to change the cell names at their discretion.
-Did some minor cluttering of back alleys. Someone should add some more stuff like misc items, crates, etc to give OE's back alleys a seedier character. Added some awnings to some strucutres. I also added a table outside the grocer, though didn't clutter it. Someone should add things like foodstuffs on display and have someone standing outside. That area feels kind of barren.
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Sure, I'll take a stab at sprinkling in some NPCs.If somebody wants the file back, give a holler and I'll return it promptly.
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Awesome! Didn't expect this so soon either, and this is exactly what I want to hear
I would suggest giving a look at Rats' interior list. Some good notes were made on specific interiors. I tried to accomodate for that when naming them, as well as OE's cosmopolitan nature.
For example, the Fetchers' Pawn should be manned by a pair of Dunmer ripping off Imperials, etc. etc. I also have some variation between Colovian and Nibenese imperials so work that in somehow if you have time.
Anyways I don't know how long you'll have this and I don't want to seem overbearing. Feel free to ignore my suggestions
Can't wait to see some people in OE finally.
I would suggest giving a look at Rats' interior list. Some good notes were made on specific interiors. I tried to accomodate for that when naming them, as well as OE's cosmopolitan nature.
For example, the Fetchers' Pawn should be manned by a pair of Dunmer ripping off Imperials, etc. etc. I also have some variation between Colovian and Nibenese imperials so work that in somehow if you have time.
Anyways I don't know how long you'll have this and I don't want to seem overbearing. Feel free to ignore my suggestions
Can't wait to see some people in OE finally.
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I hope it's not too late to make a couple of suggestions:Yeti wrote:Sure, I'll take a stab at sprinkling in some NPCs.If somebody wants the file back, give a holler and I'll return it promptly.
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- It's a cosmopolitan but Imperial-dominated city. I would make it 50% Imperials, 50% everyone else but see what works best for you.
- Probably no Tribunal worshippers, even among the city's Dunmer.
- Population are proud of their city to the point of arrogance, some rarely travel to non-Imperial parts of the province and consider the city an outpost of Cyrodiil.
- The sharper inhabitants might be a little fatalistic because they know that the future is uncertain.
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No worries, gro-Dhal. I've only added a handful of NPCs so far. I'll make sure to make the Imperials the dominate race here.
The issue with using Province Cyrodiil's clothes is that they are designed for Better Bodies, and I believe TR should still remain 100 percent compatible with vanilla assets (plus I think Better Bodies make NPCs look like porcelain final fantasy people).
The issue with using Province Cyrodiil's clothes is that they are designed for Better Bodies, and I believe TR should still remain 100 percent compatible with vanilla assets (plus I think Better Bodies make NPCs look like porcelain final fantasy people).
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Didn't Ashstaar also make specific Imperial-themed clothing? Were any merged?
(I assume you already know this but just in case: ) Some interiors, even generic homes, were made with specific NPCs in mind (eg the one [url=http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=24381]this[/url] takes inspiration from), so having a look at the int claim threads and paying attention to any custom references placed in them is essential to avoid incoherencies between locations and NPCs.
Some of the newly-added OE texts should be sprinkled in there at some point (Imperial Heraldry in Morrowind , The Hundred Dream-Visions of Kallistis, Mystery Play of Old Ebonheart, The Ebon Heart of Morrowind: A History... any others?)
(I assume you already know this but just in case: ) Some interiors, even generic homes, were made with specific NPCs in mind (eg the one [url=http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=24381]this[/url] takes inspiration from), so having a look at the int claim threads and paying attention to any custom references placed in them is essential to avoid incoherencies between locations and NPCs.
Some of the newly-added OE texts should be sprinkled in there at some point (Imperial Heraldry in Morrowind , The Hundred Dream-Visions of Kallistis, Mystery Play of Old Ebonheart, The Ebon Heart of Morrowind: A History... any others?)
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Something I couldn't help noticing: most Old Ebonheart interiors have descriptions for their occupants that can't be related to players without dialogue.It will require a lot of unique dialogue to detail the NPCS with specific backgrounds. Maybe even reaching Helnim levels. Is this something we feel comfortable pursuing?
@rot: Read [url=http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=24578]this thread[/url]. it relates to one of your comments.
@rot: Read [url=http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=24578]this thread[/url]. it relates to one of your comments.
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Perhaps extraneous details/stuff that sounds excessive for broad NPCing but might still be of use later... could be added as comments to their Background entries? (though ofc interior claim suggestions don't always have to be followed)Yeti wrote:descriptions for their occupants that can't be related to players without dialogue.
Hey, Yeti! Could you upload the most current file? I'd like to claim it in order to perform the following changes:
_adding exterior entrances to the sewers (4 in total)
_slightly rearranging the Docks to fit an Imperial Warship
_adding a scripted gate to the main gates of OE, which can be raised/lowered from the gatehouse
_adding exterior entrances to the sewers (4 in total)
_slightly rearranging the Docks to fit an Imperial Warship
_adding a scripted gate to the main gates of OE, which can be raised/lowered from the gatehouse
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Here's a minor update, just so everyone knows I'm still working on this off and on.
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File updated to v.0040. Claim dropped for now and up for grabs.
_added an Imperial Warship in the Docks (do view it in game: looks pretty sweet)
_added an entrance to the sewers in the Docks
_added fitting banners to the Imperial Navy Command Post
The Docks before:
[spoiler][img]http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y417/rats_tr/Oedocsk_v2_zpsefd1513d.png[/img][/spoiler]
The Docks after:
[spoiler][img]http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y417/rats_tr/docks_after_zps7f17e001.png[/img][/spoiler]
_added an Imperial Warship in the Docks (do view it in game: looks pretty sweet)
_added an entrance to the sewers in the Docks
_added fitting banners to the Imperial Navy Command Post
The Docks before:
[spoiler][img]http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y417/rats_tr/Oedocsk_v2_zpsefd1513d.png[/img][/spoiler]
The Docks after:
[spoiler][img]http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y417/rats_tr/docks_after_zps7f17e001.png[/img][/spoiler]
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I think this looks strange not sweet. The warship should be out on water with a smaller craft at docks to shuttle people and cargo aboard. Only small craft should be parked as seen maybe with a single exception. The original androthren docks layout is an excellent example a design that properly accommodates large ships.
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That change would add precisely nothing except irritation for the player. These ships are not enormous- by naval standards they're lightweight and manoeuvrable craft that can navigate the Inner Sea, which is particularly treacherous. The warships are the heaviest usable vessels in this environment.
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I am willing to overlook any kind of strangeness that may inhere in having a ship in the docks on the grounds of Old Ebonheart being a video game representation of a fictional reality.
In addition, having one more ship anchored in the docks creates a more bustling, cramped atmosphere which is aesthetically pleasing in game (that is, of course, a mere opinion): [spoiler][img]http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y417/rats_tr/screenies_zpsff14c939.png[/img][/spoiler]
In addition, having one more ship anchored in the docks creates a more bustling, cramped atmosphere which is aesthetically pleasing in game (that is, of course, a mere opinion): [spoiler][img]http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y417/rats_tr/screenies_zpsff14c939.png[/img][/spoiler]
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Docks and position of ships should be revised.
Normally a tall ship would not pull in to a dock... it would anchor at mooring in the harbor, and goods and people would be shuttled back and forth via smaller sail-powered or rowing boats. When it was ready to leave, the outgoing tide, coupled with wind, would pull it out to sea.
When it did need to take on larger supplies, such as new guns, masts, things of that nature, it could pull in to a pier using a process called warping. Basically this just involved tying off a stout line to the pier and then winding it around the capstan, which was a cylindrical pully of sorts, with bars that stuck out of it horizontally. Lots of men would push the capstan bars around in a circle, winding the rope tighter and simply pulling the ship in to the pier. I know that the same process was used to bring it back out into the deeper water of the harbor, but I'm not sure offhand what the line would be tied to then.
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http://ask.metafilter.com/45303/How-did-massive-ships-embark-from-the-pier
More large ships can also fit by docking side by side with boards between them as seen here:
http://articles.dailypilot.com/2011-12-29/news/tn-dpt-1230-tallships-20111230_1_historic-ships-hawaiian-chieftain-lady-washington
Assuming that the docks wont look as interesting or play as well if made more accurate doesnt make any sense. It only shows laziness of planning and design. This is also not so much opinion as fact. Those ships would have a hell of a time getting out of those narrow slots and correcting this would make the area more interesting, immersive and diverse. WHy? Having a ship anchored offshore where the player can "sail" out to it would create a unique and interesting experience. I don't not think it would create much of a hassle at all. Only small-mid size boats should be in those narrow areas.
Normally a tall ship would not pull in to a dock... it would anchor at mooring in the harbor, and goods and people would be shuttled back and forth via smaller sail-powered or rowing boats. When it was ready to leave, the outgoing tide, coupled with wind, would pull it out to sea.
When it did need to take on larger supplies, such as new guns, masts, things of that nature, it could pull in to a pier using a process called warping. Basically this just involved tying off a stout line to the pier and then winding it around the capstan, which was a cylindrical pully of sorts, with bars that stuck out of it horizontally. Lots of men would push the capstan bars around in a circle, winding the rope tighter and simply pulling the ship in to the pier. I know that the same process was used to bring it back out into the deeper water of the harbor, but I'm not sure offhand what the line would be tied to then.
source:
http://ask.metafilter.com/45303/How-did-massive-ships-embark-from-the-pier
More large ships can also fit by docking side by side with boards between them as seen here:
http://articles.dailypilot.com/2011-12-29/news/tn-dpt-1230-tallships-20111230_1_historic-ships-hawaiian-chieftain-lady-washington
Assuming that the docks wont look as interesting or play as well if made more accurate doesnt make any sense. It only shows laziness of planning and design. This is also not so much opinion as fact. Those ships would have a hell of a time getting out of those narrow slots and correcting this would make the area more interesting, immersive and diverse. WHy? Having a ship anchored offshore where the player can "sail" out to it would create a unique and interesting experience. I don't not think it would create much of a hassle at all. Only small-mid size boats should be in those narrow areas.
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Thanks, rot! The screenshots have a slightly increased contrast and saturation, so there shouldn't be too much of (or any) asymmetry when viewed in-game. Also: colors = pretty.
edit: Sasquatch, I think there are a lot of things which don't have to make any sense in Morrowind due to the fact that it's video game (set in a fantasy world, nonetheless) and video games follow their own logic. The pretend-infrastructure we're creating here doesn't have to be functional in real life terms.
edit: Sasquatch, I think there are a lot of things which don't have to make any sense in Morrowind due to the fact that it's video game (set in a fantasy world, nonetheless) and video games follow their own logic. The pretend-infrastructure we're creating here doesn't have to be functional in real life terms.
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Sasquatch: While you're right about docked ships being unrealistic, the alternatives are:
-Have the player swim to the ships - completely ridiculous looking.
-Use smaller boats to teleport to the ships - kind of immersion breaking.
-Implement some sort of sailing - would either have the journey take too long if scripted, or be completely outside the scope of this project if controllable by the player
So ultimately it's the best of a few bad choices.
Plus, in Morrowind visual storytelling should always take priority over realism, and docks filled with ships tell a vastly different story than empty docks.
-Have the player swim to the ships - completely ridiculous looking.
-Use smaller boats to teleport to the ships - kind of immersion breaking.
-Implement some sort of sailing - would either have the journey take too long if scripted, or be completely outside the scope of this project if controllable by the player
So ultimately it's the best of a few bad choices.
Plus, in Morrowind visual storytelling should always take priority over realism, and docks filled with ships tell a vastly different story than empty docks.
Suggestion for an update. This is v.0040 but with special regional sounds, to make the OE urban experience a little more unique and immersive without being too 'moddy'.
I've made the city its own region ("Old Ebonheart Region") with its own atmospheric sound effects. They are modified wind sounds from vanilla Morrowind with subtle sound effects one might expect to hear in a medieval city (doors and signs creaking, craftsman's tools being used in the distance). The only really prominent sound effect is a distant bell ringing from the tower.
Extract the zip file to Sound\TR\fx. Take a walk. Take a walk with in game music, take a walk without the in game music. Lemme know what's wrong and what's right.
I've made the city its own region ("Old Ebonheart Region") with its own atmospheric sound effects. They are modified wind sounds from vanilla Morrowind with subtle sound effects one might expect to hear in a medieval city (doors and signs creaking, craftsman's tools being used in the distance). The only really prominent sound effect is a distant bell ringing from the tower.
Extract the zip file to Sound\TR\fx. Take a walk. Take a walk with in game music, take a walk without the in game music. Lemme know what's wrong and what's right.
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I would separate the wind from the other sounds so they can be mixed. Multiple sounds can be stacked that way to create the desired effect. In addition to what you have:
- ambient sound for outside/inside tavern
(muffled outside crisp inside)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F53pEr1oUFE
- marketplace sound (maybe)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrRf7k6wVEs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdMlKVi ... Z9-QUy5Dvw
- bird songs
- scurrying of small critter for caves and dungeons
Rats, when I opened your file I did not see any of the sounds placed in Ebonheart. I assume this is a problem on my end. Your OE file is set as active and the sounds placed in the right folder.
Remaining exterior problems:
(note that some of this may be a problem with my file version)
- There is a group of ocean floor clutter under landmass by docks. This should be dragged out into water.
- TR_ex_com_plank_pile still has serious caspering issues.
- Galleon should be in harbor not dock, but at very least should be at the end of dock parallel to shoreline.
- Bell needs should be supported by beams not hung from rope. The rope is used to rotate bell not for support. This is a minor issue but beams should be added at least.
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- I would also like to propose making slight modifications to one of the apartments for a pretty thieves apt. (this is dependent on how thieves and criminal locations are laid out).
- Several more NPC should be added to docks and in the public square by gardens
- In strip of ground between streets behind row of buildings I'd add some smashed up crates and several people sitting back there drinking or a small garden in the open area and add a backdoor to the building by it. I would also move ladder next to window and place loaddoor version to allow player to break into Rifskald Whalebane's home through window. (maybe use this for a TG quest)
- Add two vendor stalls in public square and one in the open are inside city walls by the docks
- ambient sound for outside/inside tavern
(muffled outside crisp inside)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F53pEr1oUFE
- marketplace sound (maybe)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RrRf7k6wVEs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WdMlKVi ... Z9-QUy5Dvw
- bird songs
- scurrying of small critter for caves and dungeons
Rats, when I opened your file I did not see any of the sounds placed in Ebonheart. I assume this is a problem on my end. Your OE file is set as active and the sounds placed in the right folder.
Remaining exterior problems:
(note that some of this may be a problem with my file version)
- There is a group of ocean floor clutter under landmass by docks. This should be dragged out into water.
- TR_ex_com_plank_pile still has serious caspering issues.
- Galleon should be in harbor not dock, but at very least should be at the end of dock parallel to shoreline.
- Bell needs should be supported by beams not hung from rope. The rope is used to rotate bell not for support. This is a minor issue but beams should be added at least.
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- I would also like to propose making slight modifications to one of the apartments for a pretty thieves apt. (this is dependent on how thieves and criminal locations are laid out).
- Several more NPC should be added to docks and in the public square by gardens
- In strip of ground between streets behind row of buildings I'd add some smashed up crates and several people sitting back there drinking or a small garden in the open area and add a backdoor to the building by it. I would also move ladder next to window and place loaddoor version to allow player to break into Rifskald Whalebane's home through window. (maybe use this for a TG quest)
- Add two vendor stalls in public square and one in the open are inside city walls by the docks
my opinion.
The sounds aren't placed in fixed points in the city exterior cell, but rather they're in the Region sound effects. They should work just fine in the game
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As for the sound effects for market squares and taverns (particularly those with human voices) I thought of similar things but ultimately opted not making them. Having audible chatter in the streets when, say, the player has killed the entire city's population or when there's just a handful NPCs walking about would feel weird and moddy; and to have these sound effects conditioned to match the reality of the in-game world via extensive scripting is IMO beyond the scope and interests of TR.
I'm sure there will be other mods in the vein of [url=http://elderscrolls.filefront.com/file/Morrowind_Enhanced_Sounds;52636]Morrowind Enhanced Sounds[/url] or [url=http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/42248/?]Ambient Town Sounds[/url] that will do the job for us.
[spoiler][img]http://i1273.photobucket.com/albums/y417/rats_tr/regionsounds_zps749035db.png[/img][/spoiler]
As for the sound effects for market squares and taverns (particularly those with human voices) I thought of similar things but ultimately opted not making them. Having audible chatter in the streets when, say, the player has killed the entire city's population or when there's just a handful NPCs walking about would feel weird and moddy; and to have these sound effects conditioned to match the reality of the in-game world via extensive scripting is IMO beyond the scope and interests of TR.
I'm sure there will be other mods in the vein of [url=http://elderscrolls.filefront.com/file/Morrowind_Enhanced_Sounds;52636]Morrowind Enhanced Sounds[/url] or [url=http://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/42248/?]Ambient Town Sounds[/url] that will do the job for us.
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That is an understandable concern I had thought of as well. I think it would mainly be an issue for the marketplace, hence the (maybe). You have no comments on anything else I wrote? I would really like to see several more NPCs in the exterior stalls added and alley modified as mentioned. Most important is further discussion of OE misc and guild quests.
my opinion.
I didn't mean to overlook your suggestions by not answering them, sasquatch, I was merely in a hurry. OE does need and will have more NPCs in the exterior cell when the NPCing is continued. The exterior OE could do with some more clutter and the stalls you mentioned. The only thing I wouldn't change is the way the warship is positioned in the docks. I tried it at first when revising the docks, but positioning the ship parallel to the shoreline made it stand out in an unbecoming way in-game. The current arrangement, be it as unrealistic to some as it may be, is better aesthetically IMO.
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There's a strange bug I've encountered in cell "Old Ebonheart, Geeshus-aj's fine art". On first entering the cell, my PC is placed in the correct location/orientation in relation to the door. However, all subsequent entries place my PC in the center of the cell, which is in the void outside of the establishment.
As an aside, I would prefer it to be a Breton artist rather than Argonian. I think it would be easier to write for possible quest [url=http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=24381]Liquid Inspiration[/url].
As an aside, I would prefer it to be a Breton artist rather than Argonian. I think it would be easier to write for possible quest [url=http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=24381]Liquid Inspiration[/url].
There was a problem with the door marker. Fixed now. Thanks for noticing!Tondollari wrote:There's a strange bug I've encountered in cell "Old Ebonheart, Geeshus-aj's fine art". On first entering the cell, my PC is placed in the correct location/orientation in relation to the door. However, all subsequent entries place my PC in the center of the cell, which is in the void outside of the establishment.
Hmm, I definitely want this quest to happen though I'm not sure if it makes it that much more harder to write if the artist is an Argonian. Their resistance to poisons would mayhaps be a problem?Tondollari wrote:As an aside, I would prefer it to be a Breton artist rather than Argonian. I think it would be easier to write for possible quest [url=http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=24381]Liquid Inspiration[/url].
New file up.
I'll post a change log later (sorry for the inconvenience). edit: Change log added.
I'll post a change log later (sorry for the inconvenience). edit: Change log added.
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