i3-290-Ind

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Sat May 14, 2005 8:17 pm

Claim type: Interior
Claim ID: TR_i3-290-Ind (#811)
Faction: Indoril
Parent claim: TR_3-40-Ind (#983)
Claimed by: sirrah
Status: Approved (Progress: 100%)
Location: 1:(813, -3662):0
Files: TR_i3-290-Ind_Thrignar Fraxix_1.esp; TR_i3-290-Ind_poiu_1.esp; TR_i3-290-Ind_sirrah_1.esp; TR_i3-290-Ind_sirrah_2.esp; TR_i3-290-Ind_sirrah_3.esp; TR_i3-290-Ind_sirrah_4.esp; TR_i3-290-Ind_sirrah_5.esp

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Almas Thirr Canalworks: Public Tomb
Download i3-58 to see the "exterior"

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Fri May 23, 2008 1:56 am

Unlocking

poiu · Post by **poiu** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:16 am

claiming, well maintained tomb.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:50 pm

Make it fit, make it shine, then it will pass review fine.

poiu · Post by **poiu** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 1:14 pm

finished

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 5:39 pm

*unpoetic grunt of submission*

Hemitheon · Post by **Hemitheon** » Mon Jul 07, 2008 2:15 pm

TESAME: Clean

Fits exterior: Yes

Northmarker set: Yes
Loading errors: No

Review:
couple floaters
taps had to be moved further into wall
replaced Tribunal shrine with Veloth shrine
did not fit exterior, so I switched the position of 2 pieces.
Comments
Purdy
Rating
8.5/10

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Sun Aug 03, 2008 5:26 am

是認する

Yeti · Post by **Yeti** » Thu Jun 25, 2015 7:14 pm

Revoking for repurposing. Kind of. Basically, we want to make Almas Thirr's Public Tomb larger. Claimant should follow this description:

Public Tomb Ã¢â‚¬â€ A medium-sized public tomb where the poor Dunmer of Almas Thirr once entombed their dead. Connects to the Almas Thirr Canalworks. Try not to extend it too far downwards, so as not to overlap with the Underworks. Feel free to use Thrignar Fraxix's file as base.

http://i.imgur.com/SUzJIq1.png

sasquatch2o · Post by **sasquatch2o** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:45 am

Should the entrance / exit to the city be an open grate here with a false exterior? It'd be a nice touch to be able to peer outside into the exterior. Making this an exterior cell and pasting in the surrounding buildings could make this possible and make the things appear more seamless.

Post by **Gnomey** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 2:19 pm

The entrance to the exterior would be a doorway, not a grate. The locals would regularly go through it to worship and be taught at the temple, to pay respects at the tomb, etc. I do like your idea, but I don't think it can be used in Almas Thirr.

Also, just to avoid confusion for potential claimants, this claim does not directly communicate with the exterior; the [url=http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?p=328882]canalworks claim[/url] does. This is the claim for the public tomb located in the canalworks.

Yeti · Post by **Yeti** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 5:52 pm

What Gnomey said. Also, I'd encourage the future claimant to try to make the tomb feel more "urban" and accessible than the typical wilderness ancestral tomb. Feel free to get creative within a reasonable limit.

sirrah · Post by **sirrah** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 9:49 am

I'd like to claim this. I'll probably turn the existing area into a "lobby" and preserve the individual elements (mainly, the tomb 'windows') in separate rooms. I'll build it out lengthwise like the ancestral vaults in Vivec.

Regarding the shrine activator, is it really justified? Since the temple's right next-door, I think I might remove it.

Post by **Gnomey** » Wed Jul 01, 2015 11:22 am

Granting. The shrine is indeed superfluous; TR does have banner versions of the saint images you could make use of, however. (TR_furn_banner_#) Please make sure that your interior fits the exterior; that can be rather difficult with multi-interior claims like cantons. Aside from that concern, your plan sounds good.

sirrah · Post by **sirrah** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 6:01 am

Not much to report, I'm still playing around with layouts at this stage, but I wanted some input on how I'm doing for size. For convenience sake, here's some shots from the CS: [url]http://imgur.com/a/Yqt2n[/url]

Post by **Gnomey** » Fri Jul 03, 2015 10:45 am

Hm. Yeti might be better able to judge the dimensions of the interior, but I think it needs to be narrower. The tomb has the northern edge of the canton to itself, but there doesn't appear to be much space between the canalworks and the canton wall, so it's only a very narrow strip.

If you need more space, you could wrap the tomb around the canalworks on the left side. There's also space for you to extend outwards -- especially straight north from the doorway -- below the town and the yet-to-be-added docks; the rooms just have to be sunk one level.

As far as the overall size of the interior is concerned, I personally think your image is within acceptable limits, but shouldn't be made any larger.

I'd personally put more emphasis on ashpits, rather than urns on altars, as the former seem to be more communal in nature. (See for instance the ashpits below vanilla temples). I really like your triangular room.

sirrah · Post by **sirrah** » Sat Jul 04, 2015 1:32 pm

Thanks, Gnomey. I thought I might be pushing it a bit. Working on shifting focus to ash-pits presently, I hadn't considered the temple basements.

Yeti · Post by **Yeti** » Sun Jul 05, 2015 7:00 pm

Gnomey's pointers are sound.

sirrah · Post by **sirrah** » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:44 pm

Alright, I'm re-uploading this now that I've modified the layout. Sorry for the rather content-light update, but I wanted to make sure I was within relative physical/thematic bounds before progressing any further.

I've dropped the ashpit from the entry room and moved it to a dedicated room of its own, replaced the double-storied area with a room for smaller ashpits, and generally stripped back the urns/altars. The exception to that is a (no longer in use) undercroft that stores ash-urns beneath the primary ash-pit. The entrance now has some flowers for leaving at the shrines (maybe this is too lush for a tomb, though, albeit a maintained one), and a small chapel-ish area for funerary services (but since the locals are no longer interring their dead here, maybe any ancestor-communion rites would take place in the temple proper).

If any one has the time, some feedback would be great.

edit: I take it those Indoril bone-meal culdems aren't meant for tomb placement. I was wondering if it might be a good way to show the motion of displaced (disgraced?) Indoril families along with the poor Velothi majority during the Hlaalu expansion to the Western Thirr, but I see they're not presently used anywhere.

Post by **Seneca37** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 1:48 pm

Please remove the link to master file TR_Mainland.esm.

Our interior files should only link to TR_Data (plus Morrowind, Bloodmoon and Tribunal).

I'll review more later.

sirrah · Post by **sirrah** » Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:49 pm

Sorry about that, I've fixed it and re-uploaded.

Post by **Seneca37** » Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:00 pm

I let progress reporting lapse during the summer.
Just checking that you're still planning on finishing this.

sirrah · Post by **sirrah** » Fri Sep 04, 2015 3:58 am

Definitely still working on this, I've just hit a bit of a hump getting it polished up for submission; uploaded my current file for safe-keeping.

RyanS · Post by **RyanS** » Sun Oct 18, 2015 8:57 pm

Any progress to report?

RyanS · Post by **RyanS** » Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:03 pm

Revoking due to modder inactivity.

sirrah · Post by **sirrah** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:43 am

Reclaiming this to finally get it over the finish line; sorry for letting it lapse, real life got in the way. I'll upload a new .esp this weekend.

RyanS · Post by **RyanS** » Fri Nov 27, 2015 7:00 am

Granting!

sirrah · Post by **sirrah** » Thu Dec 03, 2015 7:17 pm

Alrighty, I'm going to call this done. I've added a few elements from adamantum's really nice temple claim to try and tie the two a bit.

The key to the undercroft could probably be on a priest, or in the temple, rather than in the tomb itself.

RyanS · Post by **RyanS** » Thu Dec 03, 2015 11:20 pm

Off to review, then!

RyanS · Post by **RyanS** » Tue Dec 13, 2016 7:09 am

Approved on the new claims browser.