Transportation that *ahem* moves

[Rahnd]

As it stands, you never ever see a boat at sea, or a silt strider en rout. I dont know if is feesable to do it but I think its possible.

Making Silt Striders move between locations, and having boats sail to their destinations. Make it optional to take the boat....i'll explane better

set the boats men and the strider men to give you the time of the next departure (and perhaps ETA's too), and the option just to be instantly moved (with the regular time laps).

Or, have at the time of depature, you jump in to the strider, or board the boat, and once your with in the right zone, you are opened into a dialouge that askes you for payment. then the thing leaves. you could jump off early, or if your sneaky maby even slip on the outside or stowaway on a ship.

This could add major depth to the game, possiblity of marytime guilds, pirates, ect.

any thoughts. Personaly I cant see it hapening, but it is possible. I see boats being more possible because you have less in the way in the aspect of tarrain.

also might make sense for the fishing villages to have small vesseles at sea.

[Anonymous]

I've always thought this would be a great idea. You arrive late to watch the boat sailing without you,or arrive to find the silt strider is already full. Makes it appear that the world isn't just there to serve you but continues in your absence. Also opens up quest possibilities, defend a boat at sea from pirates,kidnap a siltstrider passenger before he reaches his destination,ambush a smuggling party as they row ashore or wreck a ship on rocks by disabling a lighthouse. Moving transport opens up hundreds of possibilities but takes a ton of script to achieve it.

[Rahnd]

I'd love to corrodinate it, but I dont know if any one would want to try to take it on...(i'm starting to think i may have been better to put this in Open Projects, instead of Tavern)

[Legolas55]

I found this neat mod that has travelling merchants between certain locations. If this can be done with mechants, it can be done with striders and boats. Here is the link and here is the very long script from it. The scripting is excellent. All obstacles were covered. It was made by someone named GhanBuriGhan.

[url]http://thelys.mwsource.com/index.php?morrowindmods=True&authorpage=GhanBuriGhan#Traveling%20Merchants[/url]

Begin _HB_guar_handler
;Script to make Mine Caravan travel between mines and Caldera
;****************remember to remove debug messages!*******************

short state ; main state variable for sequential walk
short returnstate ; 0: travels to Caldera, 1: travels to the mines
short doonce
short rescue ; state variable for rescue script
short daymineshutdown
short wait_caldera

float timer ; timer used for loitering etc.
float timeout ; used to check for idle NPC to recover script if necessary
float timeout2 ; timer for stalled script rescue.
short savestate
short nodistcheck

; talking about travel
AddTopic, "travel at night"

; *********************Debug messages
if (HB_Debug == 1 )
float debugtimer
set debugtimer to ( debugtimer + GetSecondsPassed )
if ( debugtimer >= 3 )
MessageBox " Debug: state = %.0f savestate = %.0f returnstate = %.0f rescue = %.0f nodistcheck = %.0f timer = %.2f timeout2 = %.2f Gamehour = %.2f", state, savestate, returnstate, rescue, nodistcheck, timer, timeout2, GameHour
set debugtimer to 0
endif
endif

if ( menumode == 1) ; if menu is open don't process
return
endif

; *******Manual reset
if ( HB_reset == 1)
set rescue to 6
set state to 9999
set savestate to 9999
set nodistcheck to 1
set HB_reset to 0
endif

; *************** Stalled Script rescue - recovers script after leaving a cell or resting
If ( Player -> GetDistance, HB_mine_guar_handler< 5000 ); should be smaller then AI distance or it doesnt work
if (GetCurrentAIPackage == -1)
; MessageBox "Debug Message: AiPackage is -1 at state = %.0f", state
set timeout to ( timeout + GetSecondsPassed )
if ( timeout >= 2)
if (state != 9999 ) ; don't mess while trying to reunite caravan
; MessageBox "Debug: rescue stalled script"
set state to (state - 10) ; stall will occur at AIPAckageDone - jump to wander again.
set timeout to 0
endif
endif
else
set timeout to 0
endif
endif
if ( state == 9999 )
if ( Player -> GetDistance, HB_mine_guar_handler < 5000 )
if (GetCurrentAIPackage == -1)
; MessageBox "Debug Message: AiPackage is -1 at state = %.0f", state
set timeout to ( timeout + GetSecondsPassed )
if ( timeout >= 60)
; MessageBox "Debug: rescue stalled script"
HB_mine_guar_handler -> AIWander 1000, 0, 0 , 0,10,0,10,10,5,0,0
HB_guar_pack_mine1 -> AIWander 1000, 0, 0, 0,0,10,0
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> AIWander 1000, 0, 0, 0,0,10,0
HB_Caravan_Guard -> AIWander 1000, 0, 0 , 0,10,0,0,10,5,0,0
set rescue to 7 ; reset caravan
set timeout to 0
endif
endif
else
set timeout to 0
endif
endif
if ( state <= -10 ) ; stallrescue failed
set rescue to 8
set state to 9999
set savestate to 9999
set nodistcheck to 1
endif

;********************* recover script to reset script when caravan gets separated - i am proud of this one...
; if you want to do caravans yourself you WILL NEED to put a version of this in.
; It takes care of separation problems that happen when the player fasttravels or sleeps
; in the viscinity of a travelling caravan.

;***************************************************** begin rescue code*****************************
if ( nodistcheck == 0 )

if ( rescue == 0 ) ; when rescue isnt allready active
if ( HB_mine_guar_handler-> GetDistance, HB_guar_pack_mine2 > 1500 ) ; in case they get separated - guar gets stuck
set timeout2 to ( timeout2 + GetSecondsPassed )
if ( timeout2 > 2 ) ;allow caravan 7 seconds to catch up
set timeout2 to 0
set rescue to 1; start rescue process
set savestate to 0 ; reset savestate if rescue was called before
endif
endif
else
if ( HB_mine_guar_handler -> GetDistance, HB_guar_pack_mine2 < 800 )
if ( HB_guar_pack_mine1 -> GetDistance, HB_guar_pack_mine2 < 700 )
set timeout2 to 0
HB_guar_pack_mine1 -> AIFollow HB_mine_guar_handler, 0, 0, 0, 0
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> AIFollow HB_guar_pack_mine1, 0, 0, 0, 0
HB_Caravan_Guard -> AIFollow HB_guar_pack_mine2, 0, 0, 0, 0
set rescue to 0
if (returnstate == 0 )
if ( rescue < 4 )
set state to savestate - 10
elseif ( rescue < 6 )
set state to savestate - 30
else
set state to savestate - 50
endif
elseif ( returnstate == 1 )
if ( rescue < 4 )
set state to savestate - 10
elseif (rescue < 6 )
set state to savestate + 10
else
set state to savestate + 30
endif
endif
endif
endif
endif
endif ; nodistcheck

;**********try to reunite caravan by walking back if that doesnt work reset to starting positions
;**********The above distance checks will jump in and out of this code
if ( rescue == 1 )
if ( GetCurrentAIPackage == 1) ; travel AI
set savestate to state ; save state when entering rescue
set timeout2 to ( timeout2 + GetSecondsPassed )
if ( timeout2 >= 0.5 ) ; stage one, wait a moment to be sure he is on "wait for AI"
if (state == savestate)
set state to 9999 ; don't go anywhere else
set rescue to 2
set timeout2 to 0
else
set savestate to state
set timeout2 to 0
endif
endif
endif

elseif ( rescue == 2 )
HB_guar_pack_mine1 -> AIWander 200, 0, 0, 0,0,0,0 ; maybe this helps getting unstuck
if ( HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> GetDistance, HB_guar_pack_mine1 > 800 )
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> AIWander 200, 0, 0, 0,0,0,0 ; maybe this helps getting unstuck
endif
if ( returnstate == 0 )
set state to ( savestate - 30 ) ; then go back to last point
elseif (returnstate == 1)
set state to ( savestate + 10 )
endif
set rescue to 3

elseif ( rescue == 3 )
set timeout2 to ( timeout2 + GetSecondsPassed )
if ( timeout2 >= 0.2 ); wait a little
set state to 9999 ; don't go anywhere else
endif
if ( timeout >= 1 )
HB_guar_pack_mine1 -> AIFollow HB_mine_guar_handler, 0, 0, 0, 0
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> AIFollow HB_guar_pack_mine1, 0, 0, 0, 0
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> AIFollow HB_guar_pack_mine1, 0, 0, 0, 0
HB_Caravan_Guard -> AIFollow HB_guar_pack_mine2, 0, 0, 0, 0
endif
if ( timeout2 >= 6 ) ; if this is true he cant reach the point he tries to reach or its not close enough
set rescue to 4 ; on more back
set timeout2 to 0
endif

elseif ( rescue == 4 )
if ( HB_mine_guar_handler -> GetDistance, HB_guar_pack_mine1 > 600 )
HB_guar_pack_mine1 -> AIWander 200, 0, 0, 0,0,0,0 ; maybe this helps getting unstuck
endif
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> AIWander 200, 0, 0, 0,0,0,0 ; maybe this helps getting unstuck
if ( returnstate == 0 )
set state to ( savestate - 50 ) ; then go back to point before last
elseif (returnstate == 1)
set state to ( savestate + 30 )
endif
set rescue to 5

elseif ( rescue == 5 )
set timeout2 to ( timeout2 + GetSecondsPassed )
if ( timeout2 >= 0.5 ); wait a little
set state to 9999 ; don't go anywhere else
endif
if ( timeout >= 2 )
HB_guar_pack_mine1 -> AIFollow HB_mine_guar_handler, 0, 0, 0, 0
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> AIFollow HB_guar_pack_mine1, 0, 0, 0, 0
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> AIFollow HB_guar_pack_mine1, 0, 0, 0, 0
HB_Caravan_Guard -> AIFollow HB_guar_pack_mine2, 0, 0, 0, 0
endif
if ( timeout2 >= 7 ) ; if this is true he cant reach the point he tries to reach or its not close enough
set rescue to 6 ; to reset
set timeout2 to 0
endif

elseif ( rescue == 6 )
if ( HB_mine_guar_handler -> GetDistance, HB_guar_pack_mine1 > 600 )
HB_guar_pack_mine1 -> AIWander 200, 0, 0, 0,0,0,0 ; maybe this helps getting unstuck
endif
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> AIWander 200, 0, 0, 0,0,0,0 ; maybe this helps getting unstuck
if ( returnstate == 0 )
set state to ( savestate - 70 ) ; then go back to point before last
elseif (returnstate == 1)
set state to ( savestate + 50 )
endif
set rescue to 7

elseif ( rescue == 7 )
set timeout2 to ( timeout2 + GetSecondsPassed )
if ( timeout2 >= 0.5 ); wait a little
set state to 9999 ; don't go anywhere else
endif
if ( timeout >= 2 )
HB_guar_pack_mine1 -> AIFollow HB_mine_guar_handler, 0, 0, 0, 0
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> AIFollow HB_guar_pack_mine1, 0, 0, 0, 0
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> AIFollow HB_guar_pack_mine1, 0, 0, 0, 0
HB_Caravan_Guard -> AIFollow HB_guar_pack_mine2, 0, 0, 0, 0
endif
if ( timeout2 >= 7 ) ; if this is true he cant reach the point he tries to reach or its not close enough
set rescue to 8 ; to reset
set timeout2 to 0
endif
elseif ( rescue == 8 ); stage three and four - if nothing helps, reset the whole thing
HB_mine_guar_handler-> AIWander 1000, 0, 0 , 0,10,0,10,10,5,0,0
HB_Caravan_Guard -> AIWander 1000, 0, 0 , 0,10,0,10,10,5,0,0 ; Stop any other AI
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> AIWander 1000, 0, 0, 0,0,10,0,
HB_guar_pack_mine1 -> AIWander 1000, 0, 0, 0,0,10,0,
set timer to 0
set rescue to 9
elseif ( rescue == 9 )
if ( Player -> GetDistance, HB_guar_pack_mine2 > 5000 ) ; set a number of conditions to avoid player seeing them vanish
if ( Player -> GetDistance, HB_mine_guar_handler> 5000 )
if ( Player -> GetDistance, HB_Invisible_Marker_darani > 5000 )
; Then reset actors to starting positions:
; MessageBox "Debug: Caravan reset"
HB_mine_guar_handler -> Position -19700, 26220,1216, 90
HB_guar_pack_mine1 -> Position -19986, 26223,1160, 90
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> Position -20433, 26183,1146, 90
HB_Caravan_Guard -> Position -20749, 26160,1243, 90
if ( HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> GetHealth <= 0 )
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> Resurrect
endif
if ( HB_guar_pack_mine1 -> GetHealth <= 0 )
HB_guar_pack_mine1 -> Resurrect
endif
if ( HB_Caravan_Guard -> GetHealth <= 0 )
HB_Caravan_Guard -> Resurrect
endif
;then reset all variables to starting positions
set rescue to 0
set returnstate to 0
set doonce to 0
set timeout2 to 0
set timer to 0
set savestate to 0
set nodistcheck to 0
endif
endif
endif
endif ; end of rescue elseifs

;********************************************* end of rescue code******************************


; ******************* This one starts in the middle of his trip, so set starting conditions here:
if ( doonce == 0) ; initiate AI
If ( Player -> GetDistance, HB_mine_guar_handler < 6000 )
HB_guar_pack_mine1 -> AIFollow HB_mine_guar_handler, 0, 0, 0, 0
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> AIFollow HB_guar_pack_mine1, 0, 0, 0, 0
HB_Caravan_Guard -> AIFollow HB_guar_pack_mine2, 0, 0, 0, 0
set state to 350
set doonce to 1
endif
endif

;******************* Time schedule check
if ( state == -5 )
if ( GameHour > 16 )
set state to -1 ; if its too late, stay in for the night
elseif ( GameHour < 6 )
set state to -1 ; if its too late, stay in for the night
elseif ( GameHour < 16 )
if ( Gamehour > 6 )
set returnstate to 0 ;turn around
set state to 30
endif
endif

; ******************wait the night
elseif ( state == -1)
SetHello 30
AIWander, 300, 5, 0, 60, 20, 20, 20
HB_guar_pack_mine1 -> AIWander, 0, 0, 0, 10, 0, 10, 5
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> AIWander, 0, 0, 0, 5, 10, 5, 5
set state to -2

elseif ( state == -2)
if ( GameHour < 16 )
if ( GameHour > 6 )
set state to -5 ; if its morning, start the tour again
endif
endif


;********************* some loitering
elseif ( state == 10 )
SetHello 30
AIWander 512, 1, 0, 0, 0, 30, 20, 10, 0,0,0 ; take a break, do business
HB_Caravan_Guard -> AIWander 50, 0, 0, 0,20,5,50,0,5,0,0
set state to (state + 10)

elseif ( state == 20 )
set timer to (timer + GetSecondsPassed)
if ( timer > 60) ;he's done with his loitering
HB_guar_pack_mine1 -> AddItem, ingred_raw_ebony_01, 10
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> AddItem, ingred_raw_ebony_01, 10
HB_guar_pack_mine1 -> RemoveItem, ingred_bread_01, 10
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> RemoveItem, ingred_bread_01, 10
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> RemoveItem, misc_com_wood_cup_01, 5
set timer to 0 ;reset for next round
set state to -5 ; check wait
endif


;******************* He beginns his trip
elseif ( state == 30 )
SetHello 20
AITravel -21977, 15425, 2005 ;coords point mine entrance
set state to (state + 10)

elseif ( state == 40)
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 )
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif


elseif ( state == 50)
SetHello 0
AITravel -21683, 15956, 2040 ;coords point of origin -15
set state to (state + 10)

elseif ( state == 60)
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 )
if (returnstate == 1)
HB_guar_pack_mine1 -> AITravel, -21389, 15817, 2243
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> AITravel, -21871, 16167, 2203
HB_Caravan_Guard -> AItravel -20965, 15997, 2194
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( state == 70)
AITravel -21516, 16412, 2110 ;coords point -14
set state to (state + 10)

elseif ( state == 80)
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 )
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
PlaySound3D, "HB_Whistle"
HB_guar_pack_mine1 -> AIFollow HB_mine_guar_handler, 0, 0, 0, 0
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> AIFollow HB_guar_pack_mine1, 0, 0, 0, 0
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif


elseif ( state == 90 )
AITravel -20720, 16566, 2170 ;coords point -13
set state to (state + 10)

elseif ( state == 100 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 )
if (returnstate == 1)
set nodistcheck to 1
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set nodistcheck to 0
HB_Caravan_Guard -> AIFollow HB_guar_pack_mine2, 0, 0, 0, 0
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif


elseif ( state == 110 )
AITravel -20274, 17643, 2433 ;coords point of origin -12. ridge above mine
set state to (state +10)

elseif ( state == 120 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 )
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( State == 130 )
AITravel -20274, 19302, 2227 ; new coords point -11
set State to (state +10)

elseif ( state == 140 )

if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 )
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( State == 150 )
AITravel -21003, 20206, 1926 ; new coords point -10
set State to (state +10)

elseif ( state == 160 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 )
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( state == 170 )
AITravel -23839, 22319, 1346 ; new coords point -9
set state to (state +10)

elseif ( state == 180 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 )
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( state == 190 )
AITravel -23839, 22319, 1346 ; new coords point -8
set state to (state +10)

elseif ( state == 200 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 )
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( state == 210 )
AITravel -23839, 22319, 1346 ; new coords point -7
set state to (state +10)

elseif ( state == 220 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 )
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( state == 230 )
AITravel -24560, 22585, 1346 ;point -6
set state to (state +10)

elseif ( state == 240 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 )
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( state == 250 )
AITravel -25048, 23100, 1468 ;point -5
set state to (state +10)

elseif ( state == 260 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 )
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( state == 270 )
AITravel -24652, 24623, 1351 ; new coords -4
set state to (state +10)

elseif ( state == 280 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 )
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( state == 290 )
AITravel -23402, 25744, 1367 ; new coords point -3
set state to (state +10)

elseif ( state == 300 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 )
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( state == 310 )
AITravel -22326, 25804, 1321 ; new coords point -2
set state to (state +10)

elseif ( state == 320 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 )
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( state == 330 )
AITravel -21707, 26167, 1367 ; new coords point -1
set state to (state +10)

elseif ( state == 340 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 )
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

;***********************************************this is from where he starts!!!!!
elseif ( state == 350 )
AITravel -19700, 26220, 1216 ; new coords point 0, path where handlers stands
set state to (state +10)

elseif ( state == 360 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 ) ;he's at point 0
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to ( state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( state == 370 )
AITravel -19090, 26003, 1242 ; new coords point 1
set state to (state +10)

elseif ( state == 380 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 ) ;he's at point 1
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( State == 390 )
AITravel -18642, 25834, 1266 ; new coords point 2
set State to (state +10)

elseif ( state == 400 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 ) ;he's at point 2
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( State == 410 )
AITravel -18063, 25683, 1265 ; new coords point 3
set State to (state +10)

elseif ( state == 420 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 ) ;he's reached the point 3
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( state == 430 )
AITravel -16625, 25701, 1327
set state to (state +10)

elseif ( state == 440 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 )
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( state == 450 )
AITravel -16170, 25313, 1349
set state to (state +10)

elseif ( state == 460 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 )
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( state == 470 )
AITravel -16010, 24735, 1373
set state to (state +10)

elseif ( state == 480 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 )
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( state == 490 )
AITravel -14873, 23190, 1389
set state to (state +10)

elseif ( state == 500 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 )
if (returnstate == 1)
HB_Caravan_Guard -> AIFollow HB_guar_pack_mine2, 0, 0, 0, 0 ; this is for when travelling back
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( state == 510 )
AITravel -14294, 22432, 1483 ;new coords outside portal
set state to (state +10)

elseif ( state == 520 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 )
if (returnstate == 1)
set nodistcheck to 0
HB_Caravan_Guard -> AIFollow HB_guar_pack_mine2, 0, 0, 0, 0 ; this is for when travelling back
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set nodistcheck to 1
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( state == 530 )
AITravel -13434, 22041, 1640 ;in front of portal
set state to (state + 10)

elseif ( state == 540 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 ) ;he's reached portal
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( state == 550 )
AITravel -12938, 21522, 1646 ;inside portal
set state to (state + 10)

elseif ( state == 560 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 )
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
HB_Caravan_Guard -> AItravel -13627, 21817, 1591
HB_guar_pack_mine1 -> AITravel -12521, 21217, 1618
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( state == 570 )
AITravel -12963, 21043, 1637 ;on street in Caldera
set state to (state + 10)

elseif ( state == 580 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 ) ;he's reached portal
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> AITravel -12471, 21629, 1661
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( state == 590 )
AIWander 500, 0, 0, 10, 0, 20, 0, 5, 20, 5, 0 ; hanging out
set state to (state + 10)

elseif ( state == 600 )
set timer to (timer + GetSecondsPassed)
;***** This serves to keep the Caravan in Caldera for approx. 30 days
;***** after the player has completed the disrupt Caldera mines quest:
if (GetJournalIndex, HR_CalderaDisrupt >= 50) ; ***head slave freed or quest finished
if ( daymineshutdown == 0 ) ; ***a do-once condition
HB_guar_pack_mine1 -> RemoveItem, ingred_raw_ebony_01, 10
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> RemoveItem, ingred_raw_ebony_01, 10
set daymineshutdown to Day ;****store the day
endif
if ((daymineshutdown + 30 ) <= Day )
set timer to 0 ; ***if timer is reset here, the following condition will not be fulfilled and the caravan should stay
set wait_caldera to 1 ; *** used to give guar handler a special dialogue while waiting
endif
endif
if timer > 5
HB_Caravan_Guard -> AIWander 0, 0, 0, 10, 0, 5, 0, 5, 0
endif
if ( timer > 60) ;he's done with his loitering
set wait_caldera to 0
HB_guar_pack_mine1 -> RemoveItem, ingred_raw_ebony_01, 10
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> RemoveItem, ingred_raw_ebony_01, 10
HB_guar_pack_mine1 -> AddItem, ingred_bread_01, 10
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> AddItem, ingred_bread_01, 10
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> AddItem, misc_com_wood_cup_01, 5
set timer to 0 ;reset for next round
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state - 30)
elseif (returnstate == 0)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

;********************** check status , currently active
elseif ( state == 610 )
if ( GameHour >17 )
set state to -3 ; if its too late, stay for the night
elseif ( GameHour < 5 )
set state to -3 ; if its too early also stay for the night
elseif ( GameHour < 17 ) ; if its not too late or in the morning...
if ( Gamehour > 5 )
set returnstate to 1 ;turn around
set state to (state + 10 ) ; continue walking
endif
endif

elseif ( state == 620 )
AITravel -12963, 21043, 1637 ;new coords point just inside portal
set state to (state + 10)

elseif ( state == 630 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 )
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( state == 640 )
AITravel -12830, 21398, 1621
PlaySound3D, "HB_Whistle"
set state to (state + 10)

elseif ( state == 650 )
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 )
HB_guar_pack_mine1 -> AIFollow HB_mine_guar_handler, 0, 0, 0, 0
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to (state + 10)
endif
endif

elseif ( state == 660)
AITravel -12830, 21398, 1621
set state to (state + 10)

elseif ( state == 670)
if ( GetAIPackageDone == 1 )
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> AIFollow HB_guar_pack_mine1, 0, 0, 0, 0
if (returnstate == 1)
set state to 570
endif
endif


; ****************** wait the night
elseif ( state == -3 )
SetHello 0
HB_guar_pack_mine1 -> AIWander, 0, 0, 0, 5, 0, 10, 5
HB_guar_pack_mine2 -> AIWander, 0, 0, 0, 5, 10, 5, 0
HB_Caravan_Guard -> AIWander, 50, 0, 0, 0, 0, 10, 0, 5, 10, 5, 0
AIWander 600, 0, 0, 10, 0, 20, 0, 5, 20, 5, 0
set state to -4

elseif ( state == -4 )
if ( GameHour < 17 )
if ( GameHour > 5 )
set returnstate to 1
set timer to 0 ; just to be safe
set state to 610 ; in the morning, start the tour again
endif
endif

endif ;this is end of big elseifs

end _HB_guar_handler

[Rahnd]

Well...its certanly not the longest script I have ever seen....I if any one could do that with a boat....I dont know if you could script a object like taht to move in such a way it would sail or stride. thats a cool script for morrowind though...think i'll try it out.

[Anonymous]

I also have that mod and that script is a beast. It's that kind of thing that makes me stick to meshes and textures.

[Yinnie]

Woooohhhooooo... now that is a lot to absorb in one sitting.

Since this discussion has moved towards scripting and developing, I am moving this thread to the Scripting sub-forum.

Can't wait to see how this develops.

Yinnie.

[Hermit]

GhanBuriGhan is one of the more high profile scripters on the ESF.

[Majra]

I think the issue with boats though is that the NPC's start falling off... I think someone said the solution to that is to make a collision box that surrounds the npc, and make the collision box follow the same script as the boat... that way the NPC wont glide away

[Assassinace]

Someone was making short movies for fast travel I don't remember what happended to it but I still have the camping and boat riding movies.

[vorrheis]

To have a 'pathed' silt-strider we would have to re-animate it to have a walk. I think that you could use an almost identical script for a moving boat if you made it as a creature with a WalkForward script, but I don't know if you could have NPC's on it.
A lot of the effect could be done through questing and journal based interaction. Someone tells you that pirates will be attacking a ship at a certain time in a certain place. Then you have all of the statics and NPC's present at the appropriate times (like the Ordinators fighting the cultists, with a journal entry dependency).
I didn't think we were using the silt-strider on the mainland, as they are a creature that is dependent on Vvardenfells abnormal geography to flourish.

Vorrheis

[Assassinace]

You could be right however a good portion of the mainland has the ash and heat making it very close to the climate of the island so I don't know.

[Vegor]

No silt striders on the mainland? Is there a topic about that, I haven't heard it before. It would ask for another type of land transportation on the mainland.

[Anonymous]

Mainland will have siltstriders, riverstriders, mages, boats and whatnot

Assiance, could you upload those movies here. I'm toying around with fraps to make the rest of the movies

[Assassinace]

Ok I haven't uploaded something before so let's see if this works.

[Anonymous]

Where are the boat movies? Also we need to locate the guy. The movies needs higher resolution and be abit darker, we could also use 3 movies depending on the time of the day. Perhaps he could send us the esp he used to create the movies`?

[Rahnd]

One thing that I have wondered about is how will the game react to the player being on a moving object. As far as I know there is no point in witch you are on a object that moves. will the charecter be standing on the same spot on the mode of transportation, or will he remain stationary to the world and when he gets hit by a railing pulled with the object?

[Anonymous]

We can make it so he have to be in the ship's interior while's he is travelling, anytime he goes out the ship stops

[Eraser]

We should talk to JDGBolt about this, jdgbolt(is jdg a guy or girl?) was making a ship that you can sail. It's been done, but this is unique. you can go inside and out of the cabin and the boat will follow a course of its own, you can takr npcs and items on the deck and they move with you. When he/she releases the boat(or maybe before) we could maybe coroborate with jdgbolt to script travel like the boat.

I think that the boat/strider should leave when you pay for travel service and no other boats/striders move, it would kill FPS to have dynamically moving forms of transport going all over the world.

[Majra]

that would be awesome for ocean cells, and harbors, showing moving ships would be insanely cool

we should definetly try to woo this awesome modder

[Rahnd]

I take some pride in the fact that i came up with something that seems to be taking to other members:)

In retrospect I agree that having vessels moving all the time would suck up CPU power like.....nothing that I should say on a public forum. But it would be nice to see them once in a while do their route.

For boats maby use only the major route, and make them simple, like Ebonheart to the mianland for food and supplies. ect.

I also think it would be interetsing if their some merchents or regular people made trips around....sorta see some faces at the local corner club in various regions.

[Eraser]

well actually, this has been discussed about 5 times before

Yes cpu time is the main issue. but I think for a story event, having an npc and a ship moving without the player would be acceptable.

[Rahnd]

What has the outcome of previous descussions been?

[Nairb]

that it can be done, we are just right on the edge of figuring it out.

[Majra]

I think just puttin one or maybe maybe 2 in big ports would really liven up a city

[Anonymous]

Just found this while browsing neuman's ftp

[Assassinace]

This should be the boat file (Had to find the files and rezip them as I don't have the original zip anymore)

[Anonymous]

Nice, how did he get the boat to move???

[Vegor]

I think it would be great if a boat at a certain dock just makes 1 trip a day, maybe two, which you'll have to take to get somewhere else. It can easily be figured out how to make it run at a certain time once it is figured out how to make it move at all.

This way you haveto get to the boat at a certain time, if not, you'll have to wait for it to return.

[eug1404]

The Fishing Academy v2.5 aleady has real-time boat travel, and you can walk around the boat while it sails.
I haven't played Morrowind in several months so i can't quite remember but i'm pretty sure you could also go inside the cabin while the boat was moving.

[Rahnd]

Where can I find that plugin, and do you know if the guyu who made it can be contacted?

[eug1404]

Get the original (version 2) from Morrowind Summit and get the v2.53 upgrade patch from his site
http://olek.ilovehost.com/MadMax/madmax.html

*NOTE: it requires bloodmooon or tribunal*