NARSIS

Veet · Post by **Veet** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 5:08 pm

You know its not exactly a common thing for a capitol city to be the bigest city, seeing as how a citys size is determined by the ecenomics surpunding the city and not the politics...

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 5:20 pm

Well said , just looking to the difference between Washington and Los Angeles may explain it well....

Anyway Almalexia is 11 cells big , Narsisi is about 7 or 8 and together with the forbidden island barely reaches 9 cells .... so do not think that it is so big, and the interior count of Almalexia is higher than 120....

battle_bison · Post by **battle_bison** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 5:32 pm

Thinking about it, it does make sense that way. I live in Ottawa, capitol city of Canada, and it's not even a million people.

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 9:55 pm

Anywho, Narsis should be tied with Tear roughly in terms of size and grandeur - though tear is "beautifully corrupt". The thing is, narsis used to be some little shack town on a hill, then as hlaalu grew the city did too, and they even changed the course of the pryai river slightly to make the city an island. Tear, however, has been an "economic powerhouse" before the empire even existed, so my concern wouldnt be outshining almalexia - but outshining tear. Don't outshine Tear, and narsis will rule even more. Almalexia and Indoril's influence is waning heavily, hell by the 4th era if the empire is still in morrowind the capital may very well have shifted to narsis - but Tear would be richer than ever, with the dres logically expanding their territory in the decline of Indoril.
So, tear and narsis should be equal cities, to sum it all up - alot like Athens and Sparta, both were grand but neither outshone the other.

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 10:11 pm

No your ideas aren't in lore so is not such a problem Tear and Narsis are different by politics not by wealth , they are different and there is no competition... with that the discussion on this is over , here are more screens from the Forbidden Island of Narsis And the Forbidden garden as well as a renewal of the palace of the Duke , some locations and a view of the Forbidden Temple....

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 10:12 pm

here the others....

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 10:13 pm

other more.......

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 10:14 pm

and here others....

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 10:15 pm

here others........

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 10:15 pm

the last ones for now....

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 10:40 pm

(brain explodes from sheer quality of images)

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 11:22 pm

*jaw drops*

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*jaw hits floor and shatters*

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This is truly a masterpiece, Prometheus! When do you expect to finish the exterior?

Kothloth · Post by **Kothloth** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 11:34 pm

Be careful about the references in that garden though. The FPS in a few areas in Almalexia dropped heavily because the wilderness was overdetailed

Hermit · Post by **Hermit** » Sun Jul 18, 2004 11:44 pm

Yeah ... oh how I know that ... it's sad, but sometimes, good looks have top be sacrificed for playability. *sighs*

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 12:00 am

well I felt I had to create a new kind of Tower in Velothi style to fit better in the palace and the big tower called the twin moon's tower , it suits well for the temple too...

about references yes they are making drop again the fps....

battle_bison · Post by **battle_bison** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 12:07 am

That's just beatiful but I know my system won't be able to run it

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 2:10 am

My sistem is now not on the edge and can handle it , tough i must reduce settings and distance of view.....

Greybeard · Post by **Greybeard** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 3:12 am

How many faces does the CS show in those cells? We should be able to figure out what is a good range and what the absolute max is, not only for here, but for other cities as well.

battle_bison · Post by **battle_bison** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:08 am

I think that for a city like Narsis, we should try to keep the frame rate reasonable, but still allow a bit of lag. After all, with the scenery as beautiful as Prom has made it, I'd like it if I had a bit of frame rate slow down as opposed to the city not looking as nice. I agree that we ought to try to find a good range, but we also need to try to allow some room for lag. Maybe if we make sure not to have too many NPCs in the high face count areas we can save the FPS.

Aaricus · Post by **Aaricus** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:32 am

hey i just finished exploring the version of Narsis from your site prometheus, and I just want to say it looks great. The only FPS problem that was major was the waterfall area. But great stuff dude.

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 4:38 am

tHE ONE U DOWNLOADED IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE I AM WORKING NOW ....

Aaricus · Post by **Aaricus** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 6:45 am

Ok then, well the screenshots look great then. Just trying to be helpful

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 3:15 am

ok about the inns i sorted those out from the previouses....

Narsis inns

Black Cup,

Blue Djinn,

Crimson Dungeon,

Dirty Dungeon,

Dirty Pit,

Haunted Huntsman,

Laughing Mug,

Red Pit,

Thirsty Chasm.

but still to sort out 6 of them...

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 3:32 am

Black Cup
Blue Djinn
Dirty Pit
Haunted Huntsman
Laughing Mug
Thirsty Chasm

IMO.

battle_bison · Post by **battle_bison** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 3:37 am

I agree with Sirwoot except for the Haunted Huntsman, it sounds like some sort of bad Scooby-Doo episode.

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 3:42 am

Black Cup,

Blue Djinn,

Crimson Dungeon,

Dirty Pit,

Red Pit,

Thirsty Chasm.

???

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 3:45 am

there shouldnt be two taverns with the same word - how about you make up a new tavern to replace it, like the "Fat Rotumbo"?

BalinMinister · Post by **BalinMinister** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 3:52 am

Drunken Dagger Resthouse
Savage Fox Tavern
Laughing Nobleman Lodge
Twin Flasks Tavern
The Expensive Amulet
The Glimmering Coin
Economy's Esctacy (sp.)
The Charming Curator

If you were looking for some names....if not, then please disregard....i tried to make these names fit with Hlaalu somewhat

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 4:10 am

so actually i like

Fat Rotumbo

Twin Flasks Tavern

The Glimmering Coin

Oh btw i forgot to say that the bath is the sort of improved version of house of earthly delights of suran , the name i tought was House of The Night's Dreams but i am open to more charming ancd evocative suggestions...

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 4:32 am

How about "The Errotique"?

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:20 pm

Explorers Club
Travellers Dwelling
The Nest of Nemon
Nemons Final Stance
Metro
Fotballpuben
Scouts Lodge
Narsis Noir

Vertigo · Post by **Vertigo** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:23 pm

Fotballpuben

Soccer pub?? 8)

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 6:29 pm

yes what about Prometheus's palace ?

Nemon · Post by **Nemon** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:03 pm

I'm just hoping someone from Norway (or even Bergen!) will read this

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:16 pm

NO!!!
NO, NO NO!!!
NEVER add the modders forum name to anything!!!
we dont want a big silgrad tower, with its "valderon avenue"s and "sheikizza tower"s all over the place.
Maybe something less obvious, like "Naima's house of (insert word)".

Dexter · Post by **Dexter** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:21 pm

He was joking...
Anyways, for the Narsis version of the House of Earthly Delights, you may want to call it the Brothel something or other.

Vertigo · Post by **Vertigo** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:22 pm

"No, you have to report to the Imperial Guard Captain"

"Where do I find him?"

"He's somewhere in Firewatch, ask for Sir Woot A Lot CXXIII when you get there"

"Will do, thank you"

Couldn't resist

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:27 pm

maybe sir toolatow, an argonian madman who lives on llarys island.

Greybeard · Post by **Greybeard** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:42 pm

Is that "leisure suit llarys" island?

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 9:45 pm

dunno, its on the map though.
and this is the narsis thread, not the sirwootalot cameo thread.