Imperial Ebony

shadowmoon · Post by **shadowmoon** » Sun Jul 04, 2004 11:03 am

The ebony weapons in morrowind are very Dark Elven with the style and Daedric runes on them. but the imperials use ebony aswell (bloodmoon). should we make Imperial style Ebony Weapons?

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Sun Jul 04, 2004 11:15 am

If you will find some Daedric runes on EBONY weapons - please show me. Plus all Ebony armor and weapons are of imperial style

shadowmoon · Post by **shadowmoon** » Sun Jul 04, 2004 11:39 am

Here are runes on ebony weapons. admittedly perhaps not daedric but deffinately not imperial. they do look elven

why i said about imperial ebony is because ebony is mined in Vvardenfell from red mountain. so one would assume the dark elves who live there made the wares. as aposed to shipping the raw ebony to Cyrodiil and getting the weapons shipped back. seems silly

Marauth AlaÃƒÂ-RaÃƒÂ¡n · Sun Jul 04, 2004 11:50 am

Well that may be the case but around 95% of Ebony comes from Red Mountain so what gets exported about the Empire, even if it's half, that's not very much when you consider the scale of the Empire is it? even if it all went straight to Cyrodil, that's a bloody big province to spread a couple of tons of Ebony over. I doubt they'd develop a style very different from that we see in Morrowind as they would probably rather save cost and time by using the same patterns. Besides those runes don't look very Meri to me, maybe Nordic.

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Sun Jul 04, 2004 12:32 pm

They are definatly not daedric. And look at the design of ebony armor. Definatly not meri to me.

Assassinace · Post by **Assassinace** » Sun Jul 04, 2004 2:25 pm

Actually there are 2 types of ebony armor. The ebony found in most non morrowind provinces is "light ebony" which is stil a heavy armor but made with much less ebony than in Morrowind. I take that from 2 sources. 1) the rankings of the armor in the different games follows this suit and 2) There are books referring to the making of ebony and there is more than 1 style so it is logical that when looking at the different games and the look of ebony in morrowind that these 2 styles exist.

I would further conjecture that what is in cyrodiil proper is a mix of "heavy" and "light" ebony plate with the heavy going only to the very elite and that in all provinces besides morrowind and cyrodiil you would almost exclusivly find "light" ebony. Furthermore because of importing and the greater craftmanship needed light ebony would be almost as if not more expensive in say high rock than heavy ebony is in Morrowind because of it's rareity elsewhere.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:51 pm

Those runes actually are Daedric, see this page: [url]http://www.til.gamingsource.co.uk/daedric/alphabets.gif[/url]

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 7:57 pm

No they aren't. Exept the ones on an axe (it sais "BLG" or at least something close to it) plus the one in the center of ebony star.

Eraser · Post by **Eraser** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:06 pm

The weapons definetly look more of an imperial style to me. How many dunmer use broadswords too?

Armor would be good to have at least two styles of though. hmmm jeremy was working on a different style, I wonder if he'd let us use it?

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Thu Jul 15, 2004 6:12 am

Oh, sorry. There's runes on the Daedric weapons and on some of the armor, but they don't say much. "HJAUDHGEWOPJI" or something along those lines. There's no daedric on the ebony, and if there is, whoever put that there has bad handwriting.

But there are runes on several of the textures, mostly armor and weapons as far as I'm aware. Like the bonebold helm that looks akin to a shelled leech with a gash in it's face for your eyes. Didn't bother to look that up though, because I was getting bored of it.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:13 pm

Well, the one I've made is a more swanky looking version of the original Ebony armor.

It's not released yet, but it will be very soon.

Jeremy

[img]http://www.cuneo.us/tesmw/images/Jeremy/ebony01.jpg[/img]

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:18 pm

it's pretty cool, but we never use retextures except for clothing.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Mon Aug 09, 2004 11:56 pm

Sorry
I was under the impression that you were going to use "The Knights of Tamriel" for TR.
Things must have changed.

My mistake

Jeremy

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 12:00 am

oh, i never knew that. The stuff is excellent, its just that we might modify it a little to look less like a retexture.

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:20 am

Retextures are fine. Where did you pull that rule out of sirwoot? 90% of the items i submit to Objects of Tamriel are retextures.

Great work Jeremy.

Your Knights haven't been discussed for a very long time, but last i heard we were going to be using them at some point... just not likely in the Morrowind province.

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 8:33 am

Excellent work Jeremy ! And we use retextures. D'ya thing we should make a new model for every banner we make ? The rule is that if we can make a new model and not a retexture - we should make a new model.

Eraser · Post by **Eraser** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 3:06 pm

Yes we will be using them. Retextures are just fine, just no recolor everything in a single bright color fruit loops retexturing job

Morden has already done a ton of excellent armor retextures.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:42 pm

I found thay retexturing enchanted item to make them look slightly diferent is ok so if its a fire wepon give it a slightly tinted blade

shandrazi · Post by **shandrazi** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:47 pm

Jeremy's work has been amazing me for years now. He does great retextures and makes them really feel like new armors.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 9:34 pm

Thanks guys
Yeah, I did follow that discussion about the knights,
and I think you're right about using them with care.
There shouldn't be many of them in Morrowind. (if any)
The only reason I tried to shoehorn them into my game,
was because I missed them from Daggerfall.

TÃƒÂºrelio · Post by **TÃƒÂºrelio** » Wed Aug 11, 2004 9:45 pm

Jeremy I think that armor is great but personally is a bit to similar to the normal Ebony in texture, also the cuirass and greaves don't seem to work together very well, IMHO. Still I think it is a great work and we do need some Light Imperial Ebony. I like the pauldron, makes them look Imperial.

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 12:52 am

Should Imperial Ebony look like that unique cuirass of Ebony Plate that is found in the game? I really like the look of it.

Eraser · Post by **Eraser** » Thu Aug 12, 2004 3:30 am

nah, that should be unique. although maybe a very similar look.

Neoptolemus · Post by **Neoptolemus** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:06 am

This is a retexture of the ebony armor that some dude called Arstahd did ages ago:

[img]http://img55.exs.cx/img55/6276/ebony_retex.jpg[/img]

I think it's pretty sexy.

Post by **Haplo** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 5:21 pm

It is if you're a royal night guard

Negrodomous · Post by **Negrodomous** » Sat Oct 23, 2004 5:58 pm

its a little too shiny

Hermit · Post by **Hermit** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 8:38 am

No retextures? Jeez ... since when can people just pull rules out of their asses ...?

Even Bethesda themselves used some retextures.

Jeremy, good to know you're still having an eye on TR. We'll certainly use your armour, but most likely, we'll start to implement them in Skyrim and Cyrodiil, not in Morrowind (tghough maybe one or two knights of Stendarr might find their way to Old Ebonheart).

If you have some you'd like to share, you can always submit other quality retextures, btw ... that goes for everyone. Think of Morden's netch and chitin retextures. Adds more variety to the game and all. It's just that we don't want candy coloured noobish retextures. And we *prefer* new meshes *if* we can get them, but sadly, we can't always. And I'll always prefer a good retexture over a badly done new mesh.

Dres · Post by **Dres** » Sat Jan 15, 2005 5:01 pm

could be good for the blacklight city guard?

animalmother89 · Post by **animalmother89** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 1:54 am

this may be kind of off topic but i also have an idea for imperial armor. it looks somewhat like my avatar, and is pretty much gothic armor. i like ur idea though. but check out my armor desgn when i post it

Tamriel Rebuilt

Imperial Ebony

Imperial Ebony

Ebony Armor

.....