Elsweyr

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:09 am

Does anyone know about the status of the Elsweyr province... ?

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:22 am

All i heard at all was an idea for a elsweyr MQ, but it got mostly ignored... LIKE THE WHOLE REST OF THE PLACE... a good number of people here at TR could probably agree with me that elseyr has been the most ignored province (if not argonia). It won't be reached probably for at least 3 years (Morrowind is projected to be completed not until at least october), but im glad you express concern for our druggie cat friends.

Garland · Post by **Garland** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:25 am

Heh, elyswyr's a little far off. morrowind->skyrim->cyrodill->high rock->hammerfell->elyswyr->black marsh->summerset isles, or something like that. Don't hurt me if I'm wrong...

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 3:40 am

no good... how can I get involved in rectifying this situation?

Assassinace · Post by **Assassinace** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 4:44 am

Well technically the sooner we get finished with Morrowind the sooner we get to Elsewyre. Really though if you want to show off thier culture write an in game book about some of thier history through thier eyes or claim an NPC that can show off thier culture as it will be awhile before we get to thier province even if we changed the order to have them as the third province. (although I believe the order was picked to do provinces with the least changing needed to create them .)

Veet · Post by **Veet** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 5:14 am

And elsewyr has not been totaly ignored....I happen to like Khajiit a lot and have already done a buiding set for the province when we get to it.

Earl · Post by **Earl** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 5:35 am

Me too. I like their laid-back attitude. They have more character, more humour than the other races. Everyone else takes things way too seriously.

[url=http://www.tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=3044]The MQ proposal[/url]

Legolas55 · Post by **Legolas55** » Sat Mar 13, 2004 12:27 pm

Xelian, if you really want to do Elsweyr and that is your purpose for joining, start making meshes or textures if you're that anxious.

Elsweyr is one of the least ignores on TR. If anything at this point I would say Hammerfell of Summerset Isle since they are far off.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sun Mar 14, 2004 2:18 pm

I didn't realize truly how far off the Elsweyr project was... after a little more browsing on the forums, i think i have a better idea now.

And, not much of a mesh and model guy i was thinking more along the lines of helping out with the quests and NPC's, things like that... Thanks for all the info guys...

Earl · Post by **Earl** » Mon Mar 15, 2004 7:31 am

Legolas55 wrote:Xelian, if you really want to do Elsweyr and that is your purpose for joining, start making meshes or textures if you're that anxious.

Indeed. I believe the primary reasons for proposed province orders are based on how much would have to be made from scratch (eg, how much time it'd take). If someone made a ton of stuff for Elsweyr, it'd probably get a bump in priority.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Apr 07, 2004 7:39 am

i think elsewyr....whatever the name is, was egyptian inspired, like the houses are mudbrick and so on, then theirs the mane the cats clan leader, like the pharoh, i remeber reading bethesdas inspiration for the kajiit was egypt.........

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 12:11 pm

Im like Skyrim so im lucky as we are doing this next

. Elsewyr should look very persian and ejiptian(sp?), it would look alot like morrowind but more light, it would have dust storms i imagine and not much greenary.

Assassinace · Post by **Assassinace** » Wed Apr 14, 2004 4:18 pm

The kajiit are egyptian like the Nords are Norse. Inspiration is there but there are a lot of differences too. (Less of a priest culture and after death belief ect.)
As far as people who like kajiiti I would suggest doing a LITTLE kajiit influence where kajiiti hang out. (Maybe a thieves den on the morrowind border has a small group of kajiit that have brought a little of thier culture to the den type things.
Hopefully at some point we'll get to Elswyre but for now try to do what you can.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 9:14 am

I think that Elsweyr is the best province, because Khaajit are my favourite race.
They are the most whittiest, and they're voices are really cool, I can't wait for you all to get to Elsweyr.

Zalzidrax · Post by **Zalzidrax** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 9:32 am

The khajiit aren't really egyptian. They're, well, Khajiit. Of course they're architecture can take after egyptian architecture since the climate is similar, but they're customs are their own.

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Tue Aug 10, 2004 6:27 pm

i imagined khajiit buildings to be alot like navajo or pueblo architechture (as in adobe houses, some towns are built into cliffs, etc).

evilgreebo · Post by **evilgreebo** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 9:54 pm

This post made me think, so instead of doing what I should be doing I just taught myself how to make meshes and textures.
I did this by making a pyramid set mainly becuase its a nice easy shape to start out with. I've made 3/5 of the pieces so far it just need a side section with stairs and a entance.
Here's some pictures of two small ones made from it but you can make much bigger ones with it.

Majra · Post by **Majra** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 10:04 pm

the trick to making good meshes is texturing... single textures make things look irrelistic... but a nice start none the less

evilgreebo · Post by **evilgreebo** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 10:06 pm

I should had said the textures are just placeholders for now. I'll add some better ones later.

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 10:12 pm

a good guideline for buildings in elsweyr is bright and dull colours, like white grey and tan, and a sort of round look - the khajiit are fairly primitive in terms of building style (compared to dunmer and imperials at least). However, I like the basic look of your pyrmaids - perhaps they could be used as khajiit ancestral tombs?

evilgreebo · Post by **evilgreebo** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 10:21 pm

That was something I was thinking of with them being slightly egyptian themed. For now I'll finish it off and if it looks ok I'll stick it up as a moders resource.

Gooblecakes · Post by **Gooblecakes** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 10:51 pm

looks like something that would be good to find trekking through argonia imho

G.M.K. · Post by **G.M.K.** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 10:54 pm

This would go well as a tomb. I think Elsweyr architecture should be in these groups(even if it's a llllooonnnggg way off) Desert Kahjiit, Jungle Kahjiit, Foothills Kahjiit, Marsh Kahjiit, Rimmen and of course imperial.

evilgreebo · Post by **evilgreebo** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 11:03 pm

I always thought argonia would have step pyramid with a flat top aztec/peru style.

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 11:22 pm

yeah, that was the plan for kothringi ruins. Argonians build houses alot like those in rural cambodia/laos.

Zalzidrax · Post by **Zalzidrax** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 11:33 pm

They should have a few more permanent cities though. But more constructed uniquely on shaping nature into a city, not replacing it. So it would be like a jungle garden with natural boulders used to create cliffs and cave homes and escarpments.

As for Elswayr, I like GMK's suggestion.

evilgreebo · Post by **evilgreebo** » Wed Aug 18, 2004 11:42 pm

I've now finished the modeling aside from the door which I have something special planned for. Now I just need to find or make some good textures for it.

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 1:02 am

where this should fit with?

Veet · Post by **Veet** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 1:24 am

And according to corpse preperation Khajiit dont use tombs they use carins.

evilgreebo · Post by **evilgreebo** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 9:09 pm

Pyramids are really just a carin on a much bigger scale.

Veet · Post by **Veet** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 2:14 am

thats a streach....

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 3:02 am

piramids just don't fit with that culture , sorry to say this but it is like this....

Zalzidrax · Post by **Zalzidrax** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 4:43 am

Maybe for somethingg astrological? THe khajiit revere the lunar lattice, so it would seem likely that they have temples for astronomical purposes. Maybe the pyramid design could be modified to be such a place.

Veet · Post by **Veet** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 4:57 am

I would think that something similar to stone henge would be more usefull for astronomical purposes...though not sure how they would relate to Lunar movement...I have heard that the Anistazi were good at tracking that perhaps we should look up what they did.

Zalzidrax · Post by **Zalzidrax** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:10 am

I was thinking something more along the lines of mayan temples, as astronomy was part of their religion, too.

Veet · Post by **Veet** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 5:17 am

another thought....we could just read up on how its done and design something on our own...

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 7:15 am

Kajits should be compared to the tiger folks of the india legends , like the rakshasha , then i see an indu style would be more appropiate.....

Zalzidrax · Post by **Zalzidrax** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 9:51 am

As has been said many times, the cultures of tamriel are inspired by aspects of many cultures. So we would do well to combine the best parts of each.

TÃƒÂºrelio · Post by **TÃƒÂºrelio** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:09 am

The cultures of Tamriel have roots and histories, you would do BEST to know where these cultures developed from, and why they are like they are.

Zalzidrax · Post by **Zalzidrax** » Fri Aug 20, 2004 10:21 am

Obviously. The khajiit place great significance on the movements of the heavens, so why not dra some inspiration for their temples from real life societies which did the same.