The Ebony Carriage

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Mon Jul 12, 2004 8:07 pm

The carriage in the middle does not look like it could even BEGIN to fit into the game - it is far too "real-life" like. If it undergoes heavy revision, like looking like it was made out of curved plates or something, then maybe we could use it.

Spider · Post by **Spider** » Tue Jul 13, 2004 2:47 am

I don't see anything wrong with the other carts, I think they're great. The middle one is a very basic utility cart and with an appropriate texture and maybe, MAYBE, a somewhat different wagon cover, it could be found anywhere in rural Tamriel. The small cart might only be found someplace like High Rock or Cyrodil and be used as an urban taxi for the wealthy.
The ebony carriage looks great eyeball! I'm not sure how much I like the kagouti carvings though, perhaps something more '3D' looking, like your horse carvings from before. If you used those, or at least the front portion of the carving, it would look tops.

Keep up the great job.

Eyeball88 · Post by **Eyeball88** » Mon Jul 19, 2004 10:23 am

Sorry, busy few days looking for work, but I'm back now.

I got rid of the Kagouti carvings on the carriage. I'm not quite sure how to position the horses, having them rearing out of every corner would look cheesy.

As for the Stagecoach, I'm scrapping them and redoing them to make them look more appropriate. As Spider suggested in PM, I'm going to make a few coaches, one for each province. I'm just wondering if a Skyrim "stagecoach" would work; I was thinking of having it as a big, steeple-covered sled instead of using wheels.

Other than that, the models are pretty much all done. I only need someone who knows how to UVW Unwrap (I can do the textures in Photoshop but I don't know how to Unwrap.) Thanks for your support everyone

Spider · Post by **Spider** » Tue Jul 20, 2004 5:01 pm

Eyeball,

Sorry it took me awhile to make this sketch, but if your interested here is a quick one done of the ebony carriage with possible additions/revisions/ideas you might be interested in seeing.

Eyeball88 · Post by **Eyeball88** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 10:47 am

*dances around happily* It's finally finished. My very first TR project, the Ebony Carriage.

[img:600:450]http://www.cuneo.us/tesmw/images/Eyeball88/ebcar3.jpg[/img:600:450]
[img:600:450]http://www.cuneo.us/tesmw/images/Eyeball88/ebcar2.jpg[/img:600:450]
[img:600:450]http://www.cuneo.us/tesmw/images/Eyeball88/ebcar1.jpg[/img:600:450]

I mean, there's room for some improvement, but all in all it's pretty much done. I might still make one like Spider's, because I love his design, but I felt this one needed to be finished first.

Garinator · Post by **Garinator** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 12:36 pm

*jaw drops*

omg eyeball that thing ROX
i didnt know you could model/texture soooo well.
Just a question about where we are going to use this model?
are we just going to insert it into largish imperial towns or use it in cyrodil?

shandrazi · Post by **shandrazi** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 2:39 pm

sweet work eyeball

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 3:15 pm

Looks great

.. although it does look kinda funny out in the West Gash.

Lord_Gallant · Post by **Lord_Gallant** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 4:28 pm

Very pretty! The guar statues limit this model's usage to Morrowind, and that is not typical Morrowind vehicle. My thoughts are that a carriage like that would be perfect for a Hlaalu noble, since they have quite a bit of Imperial influence.

Greybeard · Post by **Greybeard** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 5:58 pm

Excellent work!

Now, I want to ride in it. Need a coach interior to do it. Pay the coachman the fare to ..., the travel script loops until you get in, loops again until you get out, and coe's you at the new location. Do-able? Maybe need a traveling coach sound in the interior for effect, too.

Dragon · Post by **Dragon** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 6:25 pm

Shouldnt the spokes on the wheel be inverse?

Excellent model by the way

Eyeball88 · Post by **Eyeball88** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 7:50 pm

Hehe, I closed my eyes, jabbed a finger at the map and decided "I shall pimp out my ride in Gnisis!"

The ebony carriage is a unique object, it's the one mentioned in the Wedding Dowry as a gift to Barenziah, I believe. So this one will probably be used only once, in one of the larger towns. Other carriages (which will be less guar-ized) could be use for transport around towns, kind of like Kothloth's rickshaw.

Also, the spokes stick out because I felt they looked prettier that way.

Dreadmaster Errtu · Post by **Dreadmaster Errtu** » Wed Sep 15, 2004 11:39 pm

...wow...amazing!

Eyeball88 · Post by **Eyeball88** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 12:53 am

Garinator wrote:i didnt know you could model/texture soooo well.

hehe I didn't even know how to texture before I joined, I think this thing is a fluke.

Spider · Post by **Spider** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 2:58 am

Sweeeeeet.............

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 4:08 am

I like it alot, but it looks way too imperial. I would reccomend rounding off all the corners on the sit-in part of the carriage, maybe an indoril-looking tyoe thing. I love the guars and textures though.

Eyeball88 · Post by **Eyeball88** » Thu Sep 16, 2004 4:27 am

It's kind of supposed to look a little Imperial, wasn't it a gift from the Imperials?

Gooblecakes · Post by **Gooblecakes** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 5:36 am

sirwootalot123 wrote:very good, except it currently cannot fit with lore - There are no horses in morrowind.
Try replacing them with guars or kagouti or something, and this model will be almost completely set (only other thing it needs is better textures and maybe better-looking wheels).

YEAH! and you know what else? all pictures of Lions should be taken out of America!! And any picture a of a moose shoulde be taken out of Europe!! ther arent lions in america, or moos in europe, so god forbid we have something that depicts a foreign animal. Oh dear what is the world coming too. Ya know what else? its completely rediculous that ebonheart have a statue of a dragon, cuz everyone knows dragons arent in morrowind.

In other news...

WOW! the ebony carriage looks SWEET!! (even whith guars)

Teli · Post by **Teli** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 1:04 pm

Gooblecakes wrote:all pictures of Lions should be taken out of America!! And any picture a of a moose shoulde be taken out of Europe!! ther arent lions in america, or moos in europe, so god forbid we have something that depicts a foreign animal.

Oh. That's kind of funny considering that if it hadn't been for moose, we would have nothing to go hunting for besides polar bears. So basically what i'm trying to say is that moose (and polar bear), are an important part of the scandinavian diet.

And btw, great carriage, Eyeball!

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 1:45 pm

Great carriage/ But could you please round guars faces a bit ? Just a bit.

Kothloth · Post by **Kothloth** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 2:13 pm

all pictures of Lions should be taken out of America!! And any picture a of a moose shoulde be taken out of Europe!! ther arent lions in america, or moos in europe, so god forbid we have something that depicts a foreign animal.

And I wonder why we would have traffic warningsigns with mooses on them if there were none around

Beef Puppy · Post by **Beef Puppy** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 1:03 am

looks nice dude

, I wish I was cool!

shadowmoon · Post by **shadowmoon** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 2:25 pm

lets say racoons in euorpe then

Hermit · Post by **Hermit** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 3:01 pm

There are mooses in Europe. We just call them Elk. We call our local elks deer.

In other, slightyl less off topic news: The Ebony carriage looks very, very great but not Dunmer enough. Dunmer have more of an asian feel to their items.

TÃƒÂºrelio · Post by **TÃƒÂºrelio** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 5:17 pm

Scarabs are just Dung Beetles you know. Also, those are more modern things, taking iconic symbols, especially from places that our cultures have come from in the past(because America is a mix of cultures, even from places with lions, and anyways our world is much more "connected").

Still, Horses are not completely bad, remember that the Royal Crest of Mournhold in Morrowind has a Wolf on it I believe. Horses wouldn't be so bad, but it would definatly have to be related to Hlaalu and perhaps the Royal Family of Mourhold.

Hermit · Post by **Hermit** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 5:37 pm

Actually, there *used* to be lions in Europe. Till the Romans hunted them to extinction. Also, there used to be lions in the middle east at the time when the old testament was compiled, hence the lion references there, which likely are the reason for the presence of lions in US, umm, mythology.

Arthmodeus · Post by **Arthmodeus** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 7:49 pm

Wow. Thats interesting! Get back on topic now!

Hermit · Post by **Hermit** » Sun Sep 19, 2004 7:57 pm

Still, Horses are not completely bad, remember that the Royal Crest of Mournhold in Morrowind has a Wolf on it I believe. Horses wouldn't be so bad, but it would definatly have to be related to Hlaalu and perhaps the Royal Family of Mourhold.

Mournhold's Royal Family is more High Rock than Dunmer - the Royal Guard has HR style armour, and Barenziah and Helseth both grew up largely outside Morrowind. It's basically a family of outlanders. So a foreign symbol - like the Wolf - wuld be appropriate. But a horse?

I like the Guars much better, but maybe - since the carriage itself should be tweaked to look more Dunmer - that version, with the horses put back in, could be used as an imperialm carriage.