The big picture

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 7:34 pm

here is a small version of the full map
and in the next answer the big one...

[img]http://www.tamriel-rebuilt.org/g/maps/miniBigMapcopy.jpg[/img]

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Apr 10, 2004 7:41 pm

The big picture doesnt show up for me. Anyway can I get a link to your dumneth meshes and textures?

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 3:10 pm

here is now the full tamriel ...still in a preview stage to have THE BIG PICTURE...

Teli · Post by **Teli** » Sun Apr 11, 2004 3:21 pm

That's one he** of a big picture.

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » Mon Apr 12, 2004 1:12 am

YES IT IS BUT THAT WAY U CAN HAVE THE ALREADY SCALED PORTIONS OF THE WHOLE CONTINENT...I DO NOT THINK I'LL MAP ALL THE PROVINCES COUSE I'LL BE BORED MUCH BEFOURE BUT HERE IS THE BASE TO START WITH FOR THE FUTURE MAPPERS...

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 4:11 am

Who made the maps?

TÃƒÂºrelio · Post by **TÃƒÂºrelio** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 5:13 am

Prom did.

Noirgrim · Post by **Noirgrim** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 5:43 am

Prom made the Skyrim map.

Zalzidrax · Post by **Zalzidrax** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 5:46 am

Didn't Cleverclothe do the maps for morrowind?

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 5:38 pm

Morkh made the morrowind map on wich i reworked adding solstheim , changing severall places and adding the north east islands ...also i added all the names around

Clever clothe just made the texture indications on that map
...

i am currently making the skyrim map and the big picture...as wellas updating the morrowind one...

Jacurutu · Post by **Jacurutu** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 2:49 am

Those would be very large claims, seeing as how they're provinces.

Marauth AlaÃƒÂ-RaÃƒÂ¡n · Tue Jun 29, 2004 5:52 am

I think he was probably refering to the pink claim dividers that are present on the Morrowind map asit was just taken from the one of the Morrowind claims maps on this site rather than the original map.

Prom, you're not doing all the provinces are ya?

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 8:11 am

actually i am making only skyrim but i launched the layout for all the others...

Post by **Haplo** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 3:39 pm

since prom had to leave us he dropped the map-making...partially.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 5:10 pm

Whats the provice underneath Morrowind... actually what are all the provinces called?

Post by **Haplo** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 5:17 pm

Morrowind - Dunmer
Skyrim - Nords
Cyrodiil - Imperials
Black Marsh/Argonia - Argonians
Elswyer - Khajiit
Summerset Isle - Altmer
Valenwood - Bosmer
High Rock - Breton?
Hammerfell - Redguard?

and the one underneath MW is Black Marsh.

Marauth AlaÃƒÂ-RaÃƒÂ¡n · Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:19 pm

What's with the question marks about Bretons and Redguards? It's common knowledge that the Bretons are from High Rock and Redguards are (currently) from Hammerfell.

I've started messing about with the Summerset Isles part of the map in PSP7 making a more detailed coastline and then putting down some landscape, I don't expect my efforts to end up being used but I just like making maps.

I know I'm sad, anyway l8rs.

Oh, BTW Prom, where did you get those mountains, trees etc. templates from? Did you make them yourself?

Post by **Haplo** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:51 pm

he made em.

and it's NOT common knowledge to the masses, and I'm NO lore junkie, and I wasn't sure which was from which.

Marauth AlaÃƒÂ-RaÃƒÂ¡n · Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:07 pm

Actually it is very common knowledge as it's written in your game manual

LOL You don't have to be a lore junkie to read the manual, oh and it's also on the official site in the section about the provinces.

In any case you were correct on which was which.

Post by **Haplo** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:29 pm

well who reads the manual these days, huh?

Marauth AlaÃƒÂ-RaÃƒÂ¡n · Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:37 pm

Erm, are you being serious or is that just sarcasm I really can't tell, anyway, I read the manual to a game these days.

Post by **Haplo** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 11:43 pm

sarcasm, sarcasm!

Marauth AlaÃƒÂ-RaÃƒÂ¡n · Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:06 am

Right, right, that's cool then. Anyway, is there a tutorial anywhere on how to make those little icons for the mountains and trees?

Arthmodeus · Post by **Arthmodeus** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 12:31 am

Photoshop or Paint.

Marauth AlaÃƒÂ-RaÃƒÂ¡n · Wed Jun 30, 2004 1:49 am

Erm, Paint Shop Pro, I think I've got a copy of Photoshop lying around somewhere but I've never really used it.

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 2:44 am

i manually drawen , then scaled reduced and applied in photoshop using some filters to colour and then apply on the map...

Marauth AlaÃƒÂ-RaÃƒÂ¡n · Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:19 am

When you say manually drawn do you mean like on a piece of paper with a pencil, then scanned in?

Man I hated drawing trees

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:45 am

maybe i'm seeing things, but when zoomed in the representation for black light looks almost exactly like the picture on the tech tree for medieval total war for the citadel, but again maybe i'm seeing things.

prometheus · Post by **prometheus** » Thu Jul 22, 2004 9:39 pm

the ccitadel of total war yes I used it for black light now i updated the big picture in order to show the progress on a bigger scale.....

Post by **Haplo** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 2:19 pm

Well at the southern borders of Morrowind there is the argon jungle and fierce marshland...Maybe we were mistaken, and thought that Morrowind reached a little ways into the Argon Jungle?

Marauth AlaÃƒÂ-RaÃƒÂ¡n · Wed Nov 03, 2004 4:27 pm

No we're not mistaken, the problem is that the Arena map Prom used (it was the one by Xanathar wasn't it?) is wrong, it includes a huge divider area between Morrowind, Argonia and Cyrodiil which is not depicted in the official combined map which appeared in Daggerfall and Battlespire.

This is actually what the old map looks like all put together in Daggerfall: http://www.elderscrolls.com/images/tenth_anniv/screens/annivdf_scrn04B.jpg

It won't fit this, Argonia sits to far out from Cyrodiil on Prom's and Xan's map and Tear's hinterland should overhang the Argonian coast by a fair amount.

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 9:59 pm

Lookin' nice stumpy

Post by **Haplo** » Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:02 pm

So...final version in what, 2 days? Joking

Great job stumpy

What program are you using?

Marauth AlaÃƒÂ-RaÃƒÂ¡n · Wed Nov 03, 2004 10:04 pm

Sounds like a good plan for dividing the Argonians, presumably the ones in the north and northeast would look more humanoid than the ones we saw in Morrowind, more like the Daggerfall Argonians? while the slave ones from MW would be more predominant in the southeast where more aquatic skills would be required?

Marauth AlaÃƒÂ-RaÃƒÂ¡n · Thu Nov 04, 2004 12:03 am

Actually the Imperials built a town right outside Murkwood. Also where do you get this stuff on the last hist tree, there's more than one surely? Is there some bit of lore that says there's only one left? I've read something where they claim the Dwemer chopped them all down but I thought that was just myth along the lines of Vivec being born out of a kwama egg.

Post by **Haplo** » Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:12 am

There's only 1 river coming from the north...and from the direction of it, it looks to be west of the Velothi Mountains.

Marauth AlaÃƒÂ-RaÃƒÂ¡n · Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:36 am

You see there's two pointy 'crests' that point north? One is just west of the northernmost point of the eastern 'crest', and one further west at the base of that 'crest'. BTW If you want to stay accurate to all the official maps, cut off the northeasternmost part of you map - the bit that would be directly south of Tear, as all the Bethesda maps have Tear's immediate environs massively overhanging the coast of Argonia.

Vernon · Post by **Vernon** » Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:38 am

Westernmost river looks like Pryai river. On MW, N of Shipat-Shin and SW of Velothi Mountains, as haplo said. The other is maybe from Cyrodiil somewhere - but I don't know for sure.

BM towns I have in my map collection:

Thorn
Stormhold
Helstrom
Archon
Blackrose
Gidean
Lilmoth
Soulrest
Murkwood

You probably have these already though.

Jacurutu · Post by **Jacurutu** » Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:39 am

There are two bends on the border map which are to the left of the northernmost point on the map. The river is on the corner pointing into Argonia.

The second one is just east of the mountains which separate the Shipat-Shin region from Argon Jungle. It is approx. 5 cells east of Narsis (and south to the border).

Marauth AlaÃƒÂ-RaÃƒÂ¡n · Thu Nov 04, 2004 3:02 am

I just found the two rivers he means on the MW map - neither has a name on the map yet, and both come from the Argon jungle - neither reaches further north than that, and neither is the Pryai river which flows from Cyrodiil down into Morrowind, it can't have it's source in Argonia because it would have to flow up over the velothi mountains and then back down again into MW, I know the rivers in the game don't work like real ones but the point still stands - rivers don't flow into higher ground.

The full list of Imperial settlements in Argonia is:

8 cities:

Archon
Blackrose
Gideon
Helstrom
Lilmoth
Stormhold
Soulrest
Thorn

8 towns:

Greenglade
Greenspring
Moonmarch
Riverwalk
Rockgrove
Rockpark
Seaspring
Tenmar Wall

16 villages:

Alten Corimont
Alten Meirhall
Alten Markmont
Branchgrove
Branchmont
Chase Creek
Chasepoint
Glenbridge
Longmont
Portdun Mont
Riverbridge
Rockguard
Rockpoint
Rockspring
Seafalls
Stone Wastes

an impressive total of at least 32 major Imperial settlements.