After Morrowind is done ( NOT what province is next)

Dagoth Ur · Post by **Dagoth Ur** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:38 am

Once Morrowind is done and Skyrim (I think its Skyrim...) is in production, will we be able to download Morrowind so that we can all see how everything worked out so far??? That would be sweet.

LordGothren · Post by **LordGothren** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:48 am

why wouldnt you be able to download a province after its complete?

Garriath · Post by **Garriath** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:48 am

Undoubtedly. In fact, you can already download everything we've done so far. We're doing Tamriel in sections; chances are quite likely we won't even be doing Skyrim on the same engine. We'll all be suitably pleased with ourselves when Morrowind is done; and then move on. If we switch to Oblivion, we might not even do Skyrim next.

But, in answer to your question, yes.

Dagoth Ur · Post by **Dagoth Ur** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:51 am

LordGothren wrote:why wouldnt you be able to download a province after its complete?

so that you can see how things are going and get a glimpse of what the final product will be like. Also, if someone has put hard work into a cell (or two, or three...), you probably would want to see how your work compares to others'.

Lastly, WHY DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE MAKING THIS THING? it's so that we can have fun in new places that we all worked s a team to build.

Colostriph · Post by **Colostriph** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 1:56 am

Garriath wrote:Undoubtedly. In fact, you can already download everything we've done so far. We're doing Tamriel in sections; chances are quite likely we won't even be doing Skyrim on the same engine. We'll all be suitably pleased with ourselves when Morrowind is done; and then move on. If we switch to Oblivion, we might not even do Skyrim next.

But, in answer to your question, yes.

We may not change engines. It is a core descision and the new engine hasn't even come out yet. Even if it is ten times better then the original CS, a great deal of members will be cut off dew to the video card requirements. You can count me out if it happens. I am not sure how many other people will fall off but I've heard that there was quite a bit. So saying "chances are" will, until it's release, be an unreliable statement. And chances are that we will not know until release. Though I do not wish to get into high detail about the switch, or the thread might go down the wrong path.

Garriath · Post by **Garriath** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:00 am

It's funny you should mention that, my new friend; I was just discussing it with a few other members the other day. We've agreed on one thing that holds true with most, if not all, members, we think.

Tamriel Rebuilt isn't for the outcome. It's for the process.

We're here to enjoy recreating the entire world. There's something about the daredevility of the whole task that makes it all the more alluring. As Yinnie said a while ago, Sikit Sikit Lama Lama Jadi Bukit. We're all contributing because we love it. A lot of members haven't 'played' Morrowind for monthes. We're here because we like to make TR. In the end, if TR came out as a piece of crap, I know I, and a fair number of members, wouldn't care. What matters more to us, I think, is that which we're experiencing right now.

If I spoke for a few too many people, shoot me.

EDIT: To Colostriph: What I meant was that there is, I would say, at least a 50% that we'll switch over. And that's a sizeable number. I in no way stated that we would definitely switch over, nor did I state we wouldn't. Personally, I wish we wouldn't.

Colostriph · Post by **Colostriph** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 2:06 am

It is not that. I love to work on TR. I haven't played for quite a long time. Modding is simply fun. But, the video card limits. And I am not sure if we would be able to operate the CS without the proper video card. Regardless, either way, there are always jobs that do not require the CS:

Book Writting, Helping with lore, voice acting, music orchestrating, modeling and retexturing, etc...

And if I am forced to write books for TR for the rest of the project, then let it be. I don't mind. Writting is a hobby I enjoy. And writing for TR is fun. And besides, it did say in the description: "Anything that has to do with modding in general is needed". And I think many people sometimes get the idea that modding is only with the CS. I do believe the term "mod" is short for moddification, or was it module? Not sure. But either definition comes out to the same thing: It never mentionned the CS in its description.

EDIT: Sorry Garriath.

Indoril · Post by **Indoril** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 3:33 pm

I agree with Garriath, I like the project, and though the outcome will be sweet, I like the time I spend here, with creativity and all, more than even the actual game of morrowind.

Greybeard · Post by **Greybeard** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 5:39 pm

Agreed - for me it's the process. But there are others for which it is the product. And to keep this project on an even keel, we need both groups. I tend to get bogged down making the perfect flower for my exterior and need someone to tell me to "just submit the thing so we can release map --".

Lord Elias · Post by **Lord Elias** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 6:58 pm

I d perconaly like to first finish Skyrim,and then start with new CS.That way:
-everyone can upgrade their software
-everyone can buy the game
-everyone can teach how to use CS4(well,its a mater of weeks,but still)
It just seems that only good thing would be to do Skyrim with CS3.Couse we already have some of the meshes,and somehow i dont think that they gona include snow in Oblivion.

Colostriph · Post by **Colostriph** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 7:24 pm

Lord Elias wrote:I d perconaly like to first finish Skyrim,and then start with new CS.That way:
-everyone can upgrade their software
-everyone can buy the game
-everyone can teach how to use CS4(well,its a mater of weeks,but still)
It just seems that only good thing would be to do Skyrim with CS3.Couse we already have some of the meshes,and somehow i dont think that they gona include snow in Oblivion.

That must be one of the nicest ideas I`ve ever heard. But Skyrim`s a bit off. But indeed, that is a good Idea.

And, quite frankly, it would be sad if the project ended so fast, that one day, we where magically finished. Many people have met friends on the forums. And many will continue to be friends. People will die, others will grow, and believe it or not, working on the project for ten years with someone who lives 7000 kilometers away from you, then suddenly having to say good bye because it`s ended is kinda odd. We`re an online community, that is what it comes down to. Even if it takes us thirty years before it`s done, people will still work. Let`s take it this way:

I`m fourteen. If the project takes ten years, by year five I`ll be a completely different person. This goes for everyone on the project. It always makes my head spin when I think how long it`ll be t`ill we are done.

What Lord Elias brought up was a very good idea. And I beg for it to be implemented. The CS4 has, supposedly, a random map generator. While it probably will not be able to make unique towns and cities, it will prove very useful. And exterior detailing will bit practically bitten out (not completely). It is good, but we need to get all nescesities.

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Thu Dec 09, 2004 11:11 pm

i too am for building skyrem on the Oblivion enjine. after all there is probebly some semi-easy way to import MW meshes(only a little updated) into Oblivion, but corect me if im wrong since i know nothing about 3Dmax. on a seperate note, if we ever do finish this progect (all of tamriel i mean) my children will probebly have worked on it as well.

Colostriph · Post by **Colostriph** » Fri Dec 10, 2004 2:19 am

I do believe lord Elias was implying that we finish off skyrim with the normal engine. There is strong chance that perhaps Morrowind will be done a bit before Oblivion's release or maybe a few months or even weeks after. I'll be saving up my money for a new graphic card because I am not getting one for a birthday gift that's for sure. Perhaps I will be ready for when Oblivion comes out, but I promise nothing. And I'll only get a new card if we do switch. Otherwise, I do not think it nescessary.

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Fri Dec 10, 2004 5:11 am

I believe we should do skyrim in TESIV. Morrowind looks like it will be completed around the same time as bethesda's new game, and rather than jump right to the next province ASAP we should accquaint ourselves with the new CS - while releasing patches for our ES3 mod.
Also, the fan interview (which gives loads of sweet info) states you will be able to see miles into the other provinces - so yes, I do believe skyrim will have stuff modeled for it in TESIV. We would have to make alot more, but hey, with how fast exterior cell making looks to be in TESIV it should take as much time as this province. Besides, seeing ice spires and pixel-shaded furry animals and blizzards in oblivion's engine would nearly make me cry.

Colostriph · Post by **Colostriph** » Fri Dec 10, 2004 2:37 pm

Yes, but as we've already discussed, it requires an up to date graphics card which not all of us are capable of aquiring. Hm. Those who don't get the graphics card or software in time aren't going to be doing much besides music, books, and modeling. But of course, not playing Morrowind for a while gives many the urge to play it. And with the rest of the province made, well, I'd say we all deserve a nice gift and play what we have so effortly created.

Anyhow, that is probably what I am going to do. First I'll join Indoril with my Templar game. Then Dres with perhaps one of my assasins. Ah, the joys of modding. How one can never get tired of it.

Paladinlover · Post by **Paladinlover** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 12:40 pm

I have a question, too. Will the province of Morrowind, when completed (by the end of this summer, I hope) be able to accept the mods that people create for it?

Post by **Haplo** » Mon Dec 13, 2004 3:08 pm

Here's my thoughts:

Don't care. Let's mod with what we have, and not gossip about how good something we dont have is.

We aren't here to talk about what we're going to be using in two years...we're here to get better at using what we have now... Could a moderator lock this thread?