Map 3 NPC Claim #8 [Stryker, Yeti]

Post by **arvisrend** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 9:02 pm

I've just noticed that my version of the file throws an error on game load. This is due to a door being non-persistent, and makes me wonder why the original version didn't throw errors (probably it's because I renamed the script which referenced this non-persistent object, and now it gets checked on game load because it no longer has an invalid name). Anyway, fixed now. Also, did some easy bugs on Leon's list.

Remaining (non-fixed) bugs from Leon's list:

4/7/2012 (19:53 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Lan Orethan Region (28, -27 ) "active_de_bedroll" 233472 -216360 421 "bleeding in ground"

4/7/2012 (20:19 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Enamor Dayn (37, -28 ) "furn_de_ex_table_03" 306645 -224465 776 "floating"

4/7/2012 (20:20 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Enamor Dayn (37, -28 ) "common_robe_01" 306612 -224451 809 "floating"

4/7/2012 (20:21 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Enamor Dayn (37, -28 ) "urn_03" 306529 -224371 784 "floating"

4/7/2012 (20:21 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Enamor Dayn (37, -28 ) "urn_01_ingred" 306467 -224363 788 "Must be rotated"

4/7/2012 (20:23 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Enamor Dayn (37, -28 ) "ex_de_railing_01" 303064 -223816 769 "Rope attach ex_de_railing_03 FAIL"

4/7/2012 (20:25 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Enamor Dayn (37, -28 ) "flora_stoneflower_02" 303291 -228715 786 "bleeds in ground"

4/7/2012 (20:27 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Nedothril Coast Region (36, -28 ) "flora_stoneflower_02" 302932 -229091 765 "bleeds in ground"

4/7/2012 (20:29 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Nedothril Coast Region (37, -29 ) "flora_stoneflower_02" 303126 -229408 767 "bleeds in ground"

4/7/2012 (20:31 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Nedothril Coast Region (37, -29 ) "flora_stoneflower_01" 304124 -229390 952 "bleeds in ground"

4/7/2012 (20:32 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Nedothril Coast Region (37, -28 ) "flora_stoneflower_01" 303741 -229087 953 "bleeds in ground"

4/7/2012 (20:33 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Nedothril Coast Region (37, -28 ) "flora_stoneflower_01" 303992 -228853 974 "bleeds in ground"

4/7/2012 (20:34 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Nedothril Coast Region (37, -28 ) "flora_stoneflower_02" 304213 -228964 1005 "bleeds in ground"

4/7/2012 (20:36 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Nedothril Coast Region (36, -29 ) "flora_stoneflower_01" 302133 -229913 777 "bleeds in ground"

4/7/2012 (20:37 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Nedothril Coast Region (36, -28 ) "Terrain_rocks_WG_02" 302161 -225016 1052 "Needs to push the "X" Position few times"

4/7/2012 (20:38 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Enamor Dayn (37, -28 ) "flora_stoneflower_01" 303608 -225648 762 "bleeds in ground"

4/7/2012 (20:39 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Enamor Dayn (37, -28 ) "flora_stoneflower_01" 303426 -225897 744 "bleeds in ground"

4/7/2012 (20:41 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Enamor Dayn (37, -28 ) "Landscape" 310287 -221576 1203 "Land needs to be more smooth"

4/7/2012 (20:43 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Nedothril Coast Region (37, -26 ) "Flora_tree_MH_01" 309879 -210176 1082 "Leaves of this tree bleeds in ground"

4/7/2012 (20:46 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Nedothril Coast Region (38, -26 ) "flora_bush_01" 313344 -205696 960 "extremely bleeding in ground"

4/7/2012 (20:47 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Nedothril Coast Region (38, -26 ) "flora_bush_01" 313196 -205420 995 "extremely bleeding in ground"

4/7/2012 (20:48 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Nedothril Coast Region (38, -26 ) "flora_bush_01" 313216 -205504 1024 "extremely bleeding in ground"

4/7/2012 (20:49 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Nedothril Coast Region (38, -26 ) "flora_bush_01" 313173 -205714 1003 "extremely bleeding in ground"

4/7/2012 (20:51 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Nedothril Coast Region (37, -27 ) "flora_bush_01" 310912 -215232 1050 "extremely bleeding in ground"

4/7/2012 (20:52 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Nedothril Coast Region (36, -27 ) "flora_corkbulb" 299774 -217107 728 "bleeds with Flora_tree_MH_02"

4/7/2012 (20:54 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Nedothril Coast Region (35, -29 ) "Terrain_rocks_WG_04" 290435 -229377 1467 "Needs to push the "Y" Position few times"

4/7/2012 (20:55 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Nedothril Coast Region (35, -28 ) "Terrain_rocks_WG_04" 289165 -229122 1054 "Needs to push the "Y" Position few times"

4/7/2012 (20:57 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Lan Orethan Region (33, -27 ) "Terrain_rocks_WG_04" 274712 -216061 3195 "Needs to push the "Y" Position few times"

4/7/2012 (21:00 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Massulahibernanit (34, -27 ) "Terrain_rocks_WG_03" 278985 -217696 3172 "other side of this rock is floating"

4/7/2012 (21:02 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Massulahibernanit (34, -27 ) "Terrain_rocks_WG_02" 279046 -213796 2259 "Needs to push the "Y" Position few times"

4/7/2012 (21:03 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Nedothril Coast Region (35, -30 ) "flora_tree_wg_05" 291427 -238161 1619 "This banana-shape tree sticks from the other side out above the ground"

4/7/2012 (21:09 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Lan Orethan Region (34, -30 ) "flora_bush_01" 286323 -245080 4802 "bleeds in ground and In_OM_wallruin05"

4/7/2012 (21:10 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Lan Orethan Region (34, -30 ) "flora_bush_01" 286337 -245197 4852 "bleeds in ground and In_OM_wallruin05"

4/7/2012 (21:11 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Lan Orethan Region (34, -30 ) "flora_bush_01" 286165 -245352 4911 "bleeds with In_OM_wallruin05"

4/7/2012 (21:12 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Lan Orethan Region (34, -30 ) "flora_bush_01" 286026 -245362 4929 "bleeds with In_OM_wallruin05"

4/7/2012 (21:13 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Lan Orethan Region (34, -30 ) "flora_bush_01" 286325 -245519 4929 "bleeds in ground and In_OM_wallruin05"

4/7/2012 (21:14 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Lan Orethan Region (34, -30 ) "flora_bush_01" 286343 -245656 4929 "bleeds in ground and In_OM_wallruin05"

4/7/2012 (21:19 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Lan Orethan Region (34, -31 ) "Flora_tree_MH_01" 283831 -253106 1545 "bleeds with flora_tree_ai_02"

4/7/2012 (21:21 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Lan Orethan Region (33, -31 ) "TR_flora_tree11_ND" 272088 -252259 1914 "bleeds with TR_Flora_treeoak_FZ1b"

4/7/2012 (21:23 ) TR_Map_3_Detailing_A8_Yeti.esp 4/7/2012 (03:15 ) Lan Orethan Region (33, -31 ) "TR_Flora_treeoak_FZ1b" 273054 -253339 2285 "bleeds with various rocks among the leaves of this tree"

Post by **arvisrend** » Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:24 pm

terrain_rock_wg_09 Alt Orethan Region (28,-26) 235200 -205312 4224 "gigafloat"

terrain_rock_wg_08 Alt Orethan Region (28,-26) 231785 -206892 2270 "caspers"

in_stronghold_dome00 Salandus hut 4352 4288 13056 "why illegal to sleep here?"

in_strong_ramp10 Salandus 1793 2560 0 "hide some stuff under this?" nice solution, Leon!

flora_sedge_01 Lan Orethan Region (32,-27) 268514 -214413 807 "float"

Post by **Haplo** » Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:06 am

Moved to Unclaimed for the time being.

Post by **arvisrend** » Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:32 am

Some time ago Tyrion showed up in the channel and asked for exterioring work, so I told him about this claim. IIRC he took it (to fix the rest of Leon's buglist). I don't know whether he dropped it or something... Tyrion, are you here?

Why · Post by **Why** » Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:47 pm

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/75781212/M3A8% ... ogress.txt

posting this here so that it's saved and public, these are the notes I took looking through this claim. Not a full review at all yet, I'm still working on that.

Overall, this claim has some great NPCing in it. Yeti can be proud. Do be careful about appending spaces to names and topics though, it breaks dialog links and results in funny formatting when using things like %Name and whatnot.

Yeti · Post by **Yeti** » Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:39 pm

Bosmora -> Nix Mount attacking me near siltstrider, special ID? wut?
Emanor Dayn -> nix hound spawning in the middle of town near rickshaw.

Arvisrend suggested putting a Guar or Nix Mount by the rickshaws, to have something to pull them along. I could have sworn I made them non-hostile, but I guess I didn't.

Folvoso -> make this slave a non-dunmer.

Any particular reason why? Dunmer slaves aren't unheard of in Morrowind and Gorne seems like the kind place whose conservative Dunmer citizens would want to limit the number other races running around.

Aeven · Post by **Aeven** » Wed Oct 31, 2012 10:33 pm

Was the "Treacherous Waters" quest implemented before this was dropped by the way? Just in case it gets forgotten.

Why · Post by **Why** » Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:17 pm

I don't know, but I'll look into it. It's pretty much time to move this back into the quest stage anyway. I'll see what I can do.

Post by **arvisrend** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:11 am

Who is working on this now? Why? Tyrion? If noone, can Leon maybe fix the bugs in my posts? It would be nice to see some progress here...

Also, can someone write up a short review of what House Indoril is about? I think we have some stuff like that in internal forums, but it's internal forums and part of it is obsolete. It doesn't have to be complete or final, just the current situation. How do the Indoril behave towards outlanders / Telvanni / Hlaalu / Redoran / Dres / Morag Tong / slaves? How autocratically do they rule over their part of the land? What is their stance on slavery/abolition, magic, free markets (in as far as such a thing exists in MW; but how much would they chicane a foreign merchant in Gorne, for example?)? Do they expect you to be a Temple member if you are to have a serious conversation with them? Would they shake the hands of an Imperial legionnaire?

I just want to have some data before being able to think of quests, even misc ones...

Post by **Haplo** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 4:07 am

I don't think anyone is working on it; it's in Unclaimed.

Why · Post by **Why** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 11:16 am

arvisrend wrote:Who is working on this now? Why? Tyrion? If noone, can Leon maybe fix the bugs in my posts? It would be nice to see some progress here...

Nobody, really. It's up for grabs, though I believe it's mostly quests that need to be taken care of.

arvisrend wrote:Also, can someone write up a short review of what House Indoril is about?

On it.

Post by **arvisrend** » Thu Dec 06, 2012 9:46 pm

TR_Flora_treeoak_FZ1a Lan Orethan Region (41,-29) 340244 -229932 1101 "add plants here"

terrain_rock_wg_16 Nedothril Coast Region (37,-26) 306496 -210624 820 "float"

flora_root_wg_05 Nedothril Coast Region (36,-26) 299523 -211117 898 "Casper"

Ex_De_Shack_Door Thalotheran Quarry (27,-28) 227675 -226736 470 "door wrong"

ex_cave_entrance_wg_01 Thalotheran Quarry (27,-28) 226580 -225710 393 "door miss"

Terrain_rocks_WG_02 Thalotheran Quarry (28,-28) 230140 -223526 320 "Casper"

ex_de_shack_04 Thalotheran Quarry (27,-28) 227453 -226820 563 "sink this to fit ladder"

ex_de_shack_steps Thalotheran Quarry (27,-28) 226539 -224122 740 "somewhat gravity-defying"

Ex_de_scaffold_02a Thalotheran Quarry (27,-28) 226713 -224622 1033 "blocks passage"

Ex_De_Shack_Steps_01 Thalotheran Quarry (27,-28) 227423 -226915 1942 "somewhat gravity-defying"

Terrain_rocks_AI_02 Lan Orethan Region (29,-28) 239016 -225987 2312 "caspers"

Terrain_rocks_AI_02 Lan Orethan Region (29,-28) 240634 -225482 1877 "caspers"

flora_corkbulb Lan Orethan Region (29,-28) 239921 -227234 2801 "i think it needs to bleed"

Terrain_rocks_AI_03 Lan Orethan Region (28,-30) 232784 -244606 769 "float"

terrain_rock_ai_03 Lan Orethan Region (31,-26) 260650 -212224 1131 "csp"

terrain_rock_ai_03 Lan Orethan Region (31,-26) 260641 -211876 1137 "csp"

Post by **arvisrend** » Fri Dec 07, 2012 8:01 pm

Just to record that Leon now has the file for a few days to fix the bugs.

Yeti · Post by **Yeti** » Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:39 pm

After Leon is done, I'd like to have this file to look through and double-check my NPC work on it.

Post by **arvisrend** » Sat Dec 08, 2012 8:08 pm

Thanks a big lot, Leon!

I'll do a couple edits as concerning merchants. Will upload in half an hour or so.

Post by **arvisrend** » Sat Dec 08, 2012 9:19 pm

Done some de-levelscaling and rebalancing (stopped at Farys Ancestral Tomb, in the order of the cells in the file). Ossu creatures now respawn. The difficulty of Khananzr is now more about locks and traps than about random enemies. Useless whitespaces at ends of cellnames removed, and "Tomb" capitalized. Hopefully this hasn't invalidated any scripts. A couple of merchants now have restocking inventories, although more remains to be done.

This is now Unclaimed (I don't have time the next couple of days). Whoever takes it please post first!

Yeti · Post by **Yeti** » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:11 am

Claiming to look over my npcs and dialouge.

Yeti · Post by **Yeti** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:14 pm

Post by **Haplo** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:20 pm

Yeti wrote: Bomora

Bosmora*

Post by **arvisrend** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:26 pm

Yeti: Great! Does this mean you're yielding the file? I'd want to do a couple minor fixes, too.

EDIT: a couple remarks on the quests:

The Indoril seem to me like the people that would rather go through proper channels to solve their troubles rather than entrust a foreigner. So anything remotely political would need some good reasons to be revealed to the player.

For the Treacherous Waters quest, can't we just let the ferrymen give this quest to the player? This needs not be in the form of "could you help us with this?", but rather can be "Yes, the prices are somewhat steep. Sorry for that, but with the diseased dreugh clawing our ships on the way, we cannot help but increase the prices." The player will figure out what has to be done himself, particularly if this makes a journal entry. Going through the townlords seems a bit over the top for this quest.

Is there a good reason for a smuggler to pose as a trader? Just asking. Even if there isn't, we could always change it to "a former smuggler now trying to live as a honest trader", which would make the blackmailing more viable.

Why · Post by **Why** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 10:48 pm

Treacherous Waters: a small matter like this is probably fine as a misc quest even though it seems political. However, I don't think it is possible to make the price of the fares dynamic beyond disposition, and using disposition would be weird. Maybe have the boat service not run at all? That could be a little extreme.

Also, Ranalath is retired, his son Alveth in Almalexia is the Lord of Gorne. Though I'm fine with either of them being involved in the quest somehow, it's probably easier to have the shipmaster or the hetman initiate it.

Burglaries: ex-smuggler seems to make more sense, yes. Besides that, it's all good, I think.

I need to read Poison Song. :/

Yeti · Post by **Yeti** » Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:19 pm

arvisrend wrote:Is there a good reason for a smuggler to pose as a trader? Just asking. Even if there isn't, we could always change it to "a former smuggler now trying to live as a honest trader", which would make the blackmailing more viable.

Go to where Kiseen is in the CS and look underneath his table

Concerning making the blackmail "viable" criminals back-stab each other all the time. Perhaps the smugglers in the mine think Kiseen is providing them with poor-quality goods, or he messed up some other way.

I need to read Poison Song. :/

It isn't the worst book series in Morrowind, but some parts of it are a little melodramatic. I tried to avoid references to it while npcing Gorne, but just because its probably not an accurate "historical" work doesn't mean it can't be used to provide details on the "real" Gorne.

Also, Ranalath is retired, his son Alveth in Almalexia is the Lord of Gorne. Though I'm fine with either of them being involved in the quest somehow, it's probably easier to have the ship master or the hetman initiate it.

Someone should probably look through Gorne's dialogue and change any parts that still refer to him as the Lord of Gorne. But since Alveth lives in Almalexia and Ranalath is the ranking Sandil in Gorne, I imagine he would at least be the one in charge of the island's day-to-day affairs.

EDIT: Also, perhaps it would be best to come up with a different idea for Enamor Dayn's quest. After reading through "Treacherous Waters" again it seems to have a few inconsistencies and doesn't really reflect dialogue that's currently in the claim.

EDIT 2: Also, yes arvisrend, you can have the file.

Nomadic1 · Post by **Nomadic1** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 6:35 am

A possible quest idea I thought of although not entirely restricted to this claim, thinking back of the coast of the region when I made Gorne and was working on the detailing claim to the north...

The Nedothril Coast is pretty dangerous - lots of sharp pointy rocks both above and just below the surface of the water. As such, there are a lot of shipwrecks in the area.

Anyway, somewhere on the coast is a Nord or something looking for the wreck of a specific ship which he believes was downed on the coast between Necrom and Gorne. On the ship was his ancestor, carrying a specific axe or helmet or something. He wants it. The Nord may not even give the PC the quest specifically; if the PC finds it and gives it to him they get a reward.

Simple enough search and fetch quest in a way. Could be made quite a bit more difficult by using one of the non-interiorisable (thats now a word

) wrecks.

Terrifying Daedric Foe · Tue Dec 18, 2012 3:49 pm

Post by **arvisrend** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:11 pm

Fixed some casperers and floaters, including that fucking tree in Bosmora. De-levelscaled Farys Ancestral Tomb and added some junkish TR loot (it was all vanilla loot). Added wares to merchants. Removed some whitespaces in NPC names and added ownership to stuff in their houses. Added some loot to a few bandits. De-levelscaled all remaining ints I wanted to de-levelscale. Fixed typo mentioned by TDF, but didn't improve any dialogue.

The file is free for taking again. I might at some point take it back for editing the last few merchant inventories, but that's not really important and can wait.

Also, the cave Vissamu needs some enemies, otherwise there is too much stuff free for taking in there.

Yeti · Post by **Yeti** » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:19 pm

Post by **arvisrend** » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:23 pm

What about this:

dispo 75 You might have heard already, but it seems a thief is loose in Bosmora. The guards have found no evidence other than possessions reported missing, but if you see something, do talk with [quest-relevant NPC].

dispo 50 It seems that Bosmora has a thief problem recently. The guards aren't yet following a lead, but most of us believe it is just a matter of time...

dispo 0 A thief is loose in Bosmora. Outlander scum, for sure.

[Disclaimer: the file is free, so I'm not editing this into it.]

Yeti · Post by **Yeti** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 4:36 am

Alright, after this file I'm dropping this claim for good.

Stuff done:

Added reference to Alveth Sandil as Lord of Gorne to Gorne's dialogue.

Added ownership to the loot in Vissamu so the Dreamers will attack you if you try to steal any of it.

Added arvisrend's new rumor dialouge for Bosmora.

Removed a copy of "N'Gasta! Kvata! Kvakis!" from Farys Ancestral Tomb since it didn't make sense to have a Necromancer book in a tomb owned by the leading family of nearby Bosmora.

Also, slaves in Salandus should be made free-able by someone who isn't me.

Post by **arvisrend** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:50 pm

Yeti wrote:Removed a copy of "N'Gasta! Kvata! Kvakis!" from Farys Ancestral Tomb since it didn't make sense to have a Necromancer book in a tomb owned by the leading family of nearby Bosmora.

Yes, that book struck me as weird, but I didn't dare touch it.

Will do some final fixes today.

Why · Post by **Why** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 12:55 pm

Yeti wrote:Alright, after this file I'm dropping this claim for good.

By that you mean now, right? You confuse me!

Yeti · Post by **Yeti** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 5:22 pm

Why wrote:By that you mean now, right? You confuse me!

Yes, please revoke this

Post by **arvisrend** » Fri Dec 21, 2012 7:36 pm

Ohkay, this is my final version.

I've made vertex shading a bit less intensive under the bridge in 28, -18: [url=http://i.imgur.com/jCi5g.jpg]before[/url] vs. [url=http://i.imgur.com/hXD4Q.jpg]after[/url]. I guess that's reasonable?

Merchants in "Bosmora, Marketplace" are now way more useful, with rather good restocking items. (The smith has silver arrows/darts/bolts on restock, including the enchanted "cruel" variety. Revert if you think they're too good.) Gorne merchants also restock.

It is now illegal to sleep in Gorne and Enamor Dayn.

Slaves in Salandus are now freeable. This should be re-tested upon merge to mainland since the dialogue reply might get misplaced.

Cleaned out some dialogue that doesn't belong here. (For some reason tes3cmd didn't find it, but there was quite a lot of it. Topic "my trade" was touched without any actual changes or additions being made there.)

Adanorcil · Post by **Adanorcil** » Sat Dec 22, 2012 12:53 am

Haplo tells me the "Three-Legged Guar" has been renamed "The Emerald Haven". The original wasn't the most brilliant of names, but the new one still strikes me as considerably worse, no?

Post by **Haplo** » Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:21 am

I agree with Adanorcil, I liked the old name better. I've looked through all the dialogue in the file and done some fixes. A few things:

Remember that we use American English for this mod, which means when describing an organization or group of people, we refer to them singularly. For example, instead of "the Sandil family are wealthy", we would say "the Sandil family is wealthy".

Also remember when to use apostrophes to denote possession and when not to. Your's and Seem's are always erroneous. It's only gets an apostrophe when it is a contraction of "it is", and NEVER when possessive. Finally, restaurant is the proper spelling

The dialogue line about Madalin Rendays that is as follows: "She's that rich merchant's daughter, right? That poor man, he's so timid and sweet... I don't know how he ended up with a daughter like her."
I'd prefer a follow-up option so that the player can click a Continue option that says "What do you mean?" so that whoever says it can explain what exactly they mean by "a daughter like her".

Finally, the Enamor Dayn inn appears to have no vacancies; "The inn and housing complex, though there aren't any vacant rooms, can be found in the southern buildings of the city."
Is there a good reason for this? Every time we have an inn, it should have at least one room open for rent.

I also cleaned out a dirty wilderness cell north of the claim. Here is the file:

Why · Post by **Why** » Sat Dec 22, 2012 2:58 pm

Shall we move this to reviewing and start developing quests for the area in separate claims?

Post by **Haplo** » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:13 pm

I'd like to take a look at the rest of the content once before we do that, but it shouldn't be too terribly long.

Why · Post by **Why** » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:16 pm

Well, we could just call that a review, you know

edit: edited the title to give credit where credit is due. Thanks, both of you.

Post by **Haplo** » Sat Dec 22, 2012 7:21 pm

Fine

off to reviewing!

Post by **arvisrend** » Sat Dec 29, 2012 3:43 am

And here's Haplo's version of the file, for everyone who can't access attachments for whatever reasons.

Mwgek · Post by **Mwgek** » Sun Dec 30, 2012 7:37 pm

1)
NPc Stuffs
On Gorne; Vissamu cave is a Sixth House Den. Only a bunch of non hostile dreamers inside some are unique with names. Does this get a quest? Like investigate the weird people in the north that cause some disturbance on the normally quiet island. Also the Dreamers are still not attacking after you pick up the quite expensive loot that is in there. 7500 coins for free.

TR_m3_Sadali_Rothril00000000 Gorne (41,-30) 336705 -240128 626 "Has a barter option with no gold and no items, she claims to be a clothier (walking outside)"

Can the slaves at Thalotheran Manor be freed? I can't seem to find a key in the game or in the CS.

Stronghold interior Salandus: Slaves running against walls. Maybe completely get rid of wander AI? Not really an issue we need to fix - Haplo

TR_key_m3-664_slavedoors "shouldn't the key be named: Salandus slave key?"

ex_ruin_20 Lan Orethan Region (28,-27) 232052 -215618 521 "there are bandits inside the nearby ruin Salandus, shouldn't there be some outside here to? There are beds, lights and loot outside the ruins. But no one to guard it."

TR_m3_Areno_Varo00000000 Lan Orethan Region (30,-28 ) 249388 -228558 1106 "She is outside so door should be locked?"

TR_m3_Nels_Vlars 00000000 Vlars Manor 5532 2894 17602 "Naming a lot of places on Vvardenfell, shouldn't his scout class name places on the mainland?"

TR_m3_Ranis_Arthyn 00000000 Ranis Arthyn's House -486 -88 16130 "Only has background topic"

2)
Exterior Stuff:
terrain_rock_wg_10 Enamor Dayn ( 37,-28 ) 304203 -227634 1041 "Vertexpaint way to dark"
Terrain_rocks_WG_01 Lan Orethan Region ( 40,-28 ) 329938 -225501 514 "Bleeding bridge a bit to much"
TR_terrain_AI_rock_09 Lan Orethan Region (27,-29) 225797 -233023 -743 "river has no underwater detailing"
terrain_rock_wg_18 Thalotheran Quarry (28,-28 ) 237369 -228614 3301 "Caspering rock"
ex_ruin_30 Lan Orethan Region (28,-27) 236497 -220866 960 "caspering"
ex_ruin_boulder00 Lan Orethan Region (28,-27) 236562 -220253 859 "resting unnatural"
Flora_tree_MH_01 Lan Orethan Region (28,-27) 235888 -220574 1059 "bleeding ruin"
crate_02_torch Lan Orethan Region (28,-27) 234420 -215803 880 "floating bunch of crates"
Terrain_rocks_WG_01 Alt Orethan Region (27,-27) 228158 -218236 690 "Caspering rocks"
Terrain_rocks_AI_01 Lan Orethan Region (28,-27) 231165 -217634 542 "Caspering rocks"
Flora_emp_parasol_03 Lan Orethan Region (28,-27) 231595 -220112 1048 "Caspering emp. parasol"
Flora_tree_MH_01 Alt Orethan Region (29,-27) 239906 -214296 1909 "bleeding leaves in the ground"
TR_Flora_treeoak_FZ1b Lan Orethan Region (29,-28 ) 243744 -221605 1771 "leaves bleeding in the ground"
TR_terr_cliffend1L Lan Orethan Region (31,-28 ) 259486 -222000 95 "caspering a little bit"
TR_terr_cliff45outR Lan Orethan Region (31,-28 ) 259392 -223264 95 "not snapped properly"
TR_flora_tree07_ND Lan Orethan Region (30,-29) 252654 -230137 1600 "caspering tree"
flora_bush_01 Lan Orethan Region (29,-29) 243787 -234972 1168 "Bleeding to deep in the ground"
TR_ex_ind_bridge04 Lan Orethan Region (29,-30) 242698 -238103 1124 "End of bridge is caspering at the south end"
Terrain_rocks_WG_04 Lan Orethan Region (28,-31) 233062 -252493 1795 "caspering rock"
flora_tree_ai_04 Lan Orethan Region (29,-29) 242114 -233869 1677 "bleeding through parasol"
terrain_rock_wg_04 Alt Orethan Region (29,-26) 239213 -207886 3216 "caspering rock"
ex_de_docks_end Alt Orethan Region (29,-26) 238127 -208573 2759 "sticking out of the rock?"
Flora_tree_MH_02 Lan Orethan Region (28,-27) 235883 -219937 519 "bleeding ground heavily"
TR_terr_cliff45outL Lan Orethan Region (30,-26) 249568 -212576 1824 "caspering cliff"
terrain_rock_ai_02 Lan Orethan Region (30,-26) 251814 -205863 906 "caspering rock"
TR_terr_cliffst11 Lan Orethan Region (30,-26) 252032 -207296 320 "cliffs not snapped properly"
TR_cont_De_vase_02 Lan Orethan Region (32,-26) 264640 -212353 85 "ideal place for some small loot in here"
TR_Flora_treeoak_FZ1b Lan Orethan Region (32,-27) 263272 -213984 1158 "leaves are growing into the ground"

3)
Interior Stuff:
in_m_sewer_column_01 Zuldassur Manor -1392 88 -408 "stairway down can't be walked"

4)
Misc Stuff:
ex_cave_door_01 Alt Orethan Region (27,-26) 227377 -208040 1367 "Missing interior"
ex_cave_door_01 Lan Orethan Region (30,-26) 250251 -212031 1719 "Missing interior"