Lutemoth art overflow

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:21 pm

I took these when I was at a museum recently.. they're part of my growing collection of stock photography. I thought they might be of some use to you.

[url=http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=arcticgoggles25ml.jpg][img]http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/5308/arcticgoggles25ml.th.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=arcticgoggles38ir.jpg][img]http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/7654/arcticgoggles38ir.th.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=arcticgoggles9rl.jpg][img]http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/8125/arcticgoggles9rl.th.jpg[/img][/url]

[url=http://img83.imageshack.us/my.php?image=copyofsikhhelmet2xy.jpg][img]http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/2039/copyofsikhhelmet2xy.th.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://img372.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sikharmor4rv.jpg][img]http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/2874/sikharmor4rv.th.jpg[/img][/url]

PS. Your sword and armor concepts are excellent.. they make me all tingley.

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:28 pm

OMG! i took pics of that indian armor yesterday!

those concepts are looking awsome lute. im gona draw a concubine concept as well...

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:28 pm

wow, productive weekend, lute. The serpentine armor looks good, I especlaly like the helm. Perhaps for templars of satakal or something? I like the second helm less, it kind of looks like a fish to me.

The concubine is an intersting idea. Does anyone know, btw, if hats and wigs will be possible in OB? I am also a big fan of the jewery you used on her, nice african falvor. I would be a fan of less tatooing, though. To me tatoos look very tribal, while cocubines are ususaly city dwellers (or at least the ones in rihad). I think there are some interesting things to be done with makeup, different cultures have done some odd things...

Orix · Post by **Orix** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:44 pm

Well, we know there are indeed helmets in the game, couldn't it just act as a type of helmet in that respect, replacing the hair model?

Lutemoth · Post by **Lutemoth** » Sun Mar 05, 2006 6:10 pm

Morden, Thankee for the photos! I didn't know how unreliable it is to look for that technology via google until before. Expect to see my next doodle incorperate this and a good influence of that helm

And Macar, you're right about the tattooings. I originally intended it to be simple makeup and paints, but really I was just doodling around, hehe

the Bard · Post by **the Bard** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 4:46 pm

Great design on the concubine Lute, I like the wig thing, it reminds me of something I saw on tv about a Chinese tribe called long horn miao. They use wigs to attract men to be their husbands. Here's an image of them:

[url=http://imageshack.us][img]http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/5967/swchinamiaogirl26ts.jpg[/img][/url]

Oh, and Morden, I made a concept of something along the lines of that armor already. Look here: http://tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=15650

The_Warder · Post by **The_Warder** » Mon Mar 06, 2006 11:09 pm

Lutemoth do you mind if I try and model that cleaver looking weapon.

Lutemoth · Post by **Lutemoth** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 2:52 am

oh, not at all, Warder

By the way, all, I won't be able to contribute any this week, as I'm without a scanner for a bit.

The_Warder · Post by **The_Warder** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 3:51 am

thanks.

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Tue Mar 07, 2006 5:39 am

I'll miss your contributions!

ENIGMA* · Post by ENIGMA* » Thu Mar 09, 2006 3:52 am

ohh dont give up Lutemoth what a scanner can do a camera can do jut as well given you have a wite wall to tape pictures on....

Lutemoth · Post by **Lutemoth** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 1:29 am

oh, I wouldn't have that either, Enigma*
You see, I'm on a bit of vacationing at my sister's place in downtown Vancouver, and all recent posts are made from their (quite spiffy) computer.
Do not fret, as I'll clump them all together (people seem to enjoy that more

)

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Fri Mar 10, 2006 2:09 am

I knew that river delta you posted in the Rihad thread was the Fraser.

Did you know I live on Vancouver Island?... born and raised. Random fact: my brother just moved out of downtown Vancouver.. and out to Port Moody.

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:38 pm

If you approve, i'd like to color some of your work for future use in an official concept art release. I'm also willing to do different color variations, if you have any preferences, or know of details i've missed, let me know. ;)Here's my work so far:

[url=http://img459.imageshack.us/my.php?image=armourhamfel1lutemothmo26ia.jpg][img]http://img459.imageshack.us/img459/4332/armourhamfel1lutemothmo26ia.th.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=armourhamfel2lutemothmo9is.jpg][img]http://img54.imageshack.us/img54/6379/armourhamfel2lutemothmo9is.th.jpg[/img][/url]

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:55 pm

Nice color Mord. I dont know if Lute's around these days, wasnt he on vacation or something?

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:01 pm

Yeah. I just assumed he'd see it when he got back.

Lutemoth · Post by **Lutemoth** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 6:24 am

Morden, your skill with the digital brush further cements the fact that your detail exceeds my own digital painting by centuries

Once again, sorry for the abrupt leave of absence. I'll make up for it to myself and the crew with a couple of updates:

What can I say about this one? several concubines of varying age/experience, which shows typically the range of gradutation
[url=http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/8703/concubine3vp.jpg][img]http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/8703/concubine3vp.th.jpg[/img][/url]

Another dunedweller, equipped with the more practical eyepiece that was provided

[url=http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/6329/dunedweller9oy.jpg][img]http://img115.imageshack.us/img115/6329/dunedweller9oy.th.jpg[/img][/url]
More concepts in a bit

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 7:25 am

Man, I didn't remember saying that thing about Chewbacca. Thanks for bumping I feel real clever now.

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 2:27 pm

I'm always amazed at the people you draw. I just finished staring at the latest dunedweller pic for a few minutes straight.

The inuit googles look great on him, and the knife is simple, yet characteristic of their harsh environment. The detail will also make it a pleasure to model and texture.

If you're interested, it think it would be a great benefit to the project if you continued to exploring new armor sets and generally fleshing out the people of Hammerfell.

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 3:48 pm

Lutemoth! good to see ya back. I like the new dunedweller. Intentionaly or otherwise, I think you have given this costume less bulk than previous incarnations. That gives him a more menacing and dangerous look. I like the squinters too, that makes him look more intelegent. Nice sword.

El Scumbago · Post by **El Scumbago** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:06 pm

These sanddwellers are great. Looks to me like a crossbreed between chinese and arabian in terms of clothing.

Andres Indoril · Post by **Andres Indoril** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 4:11 pm

*whisper* El Scumabago, from what I know they're called dunedwellers */whisper*

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:30 pm

whaqt can i say? i love

i felt a need to practice my feeble watercolor skilz... so i colored your latest concubine pic:

[url=http://img481.imageshack.us/my.php?image=concubinelutecolor8ny.jpg][img]http://img481.imageshack.us/img481/4177/concubinelutecolor8ny.th.jpg[/img][/url]

yeh...

Lutemoth · Post by **Lutemoth** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 8:48 pm

ohh, I love it, Lady Nerevar! It's quite splendid detailing, and goes to prove the need for colour in a bleakly coloured landscape in their culture.

Also, as a note, would it make sense that in larger desert towns the clothing (like in daggerfall) would become more colourful, and in more fertile areas, the fabrics would be pale and white? This, of course, would exclude areas that do or do not have main water access, and the ability to make these dyes from those waters.

edit] as Morden has mentioned it's needed, I'd love to continue on the armour design warpath! I'll see what else I can incite today, as I've got nothing else planned

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:05 pm

Why would areas that are fertile be unable to make dyes and desert areas be able to? Either way, thats a level of realism I don't think we really need, because it would make the clothing very uninteresting.

Lutemoth · Post by **Lutemoth** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:23 pm

I don't mean by a perspective of abilities, but of if they would want it or not. This is only an observation to earth cultures, as the more mundane the biome is, the more colourful the clothing becomes. (egyptians, nepalese, Kenyan ect.) The same goes vice-versa in lush environments (Nigeria, for instance) where the most common clothing is the whitest of whites.

Now that I think of it, though, it would be too much of a mirroring to already existing cultures (to the extent of boring)

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:44 pm

That's interesting, I wonder why that is. They must be bored in the desert.

That said, I think we should just give them regular clothes, because almost everyone is going to live in a "modern" local.

Lutemoth · Post by **Lutemoth** » Sun Mar 26, 2006 11:51 pm

You're very right, as the cultures I referenced to are typically behind the 3rd era. In fact, it's a relief that most of Hammerfell is influenced by the empire, as it saves on clothing designs on that end.

Sload · Post by **Sload** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 12:17 am

Yes. The only ones who will have fancy clothes are the dunedwellers, who conveniently all live in the same region.

Lutemoth · Post by **Lutemoth** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:02 am

Just a bit of wandering around on these concepts here, nothing concrete

[url=http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/8880/archer8tu.jpg][img]http://img148.imageshack.us/img148/8880/archer8tu.th.jpg[/img][/url]
although I could be wrong, but it's safe to say that redguards are more famous for melee than they are with a bow and arrow. This armour kindav steadfasts that, as though it may be light, it is still somewhat restricting. This is more favourable for crossbowmen, and those who wouldn't need to flee or run.

And this guy? I dunno who the hell he is... A yoku that likes to dress warmly? Beats me..
[url=http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/9320/yoku7oh.jpg][img]http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/9320/yoku7oh.th.jpg[/img][/url]

PoHa! · Post by **PoHa!** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:17 am

Hmm... the first one looks like it might be found somewhere along the coast, in one of the poorer towns perhaps? The second one, for some reason, makes me think Necromancer. They do live in caves/ruins, and such places would be colder than the desert, I think... though I don't know how much colder...

Anyways, great drawings, as always

I love that dagger posted earlier.

Lutemoth · Post by **Lutemoth** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 5:28 am

thank you a thousand thanks, PoHa! That thing describing him as a necromancer has inspired me anew. I'm thinking Yoku/Regada inspired necromancy of the dragontail mountains, something that'll follow that fluffly, scraggy zombie I made earlier

the Bard · Post by **the Bard** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:20 pm

The armor looks great, though it does remind me of samurai armor but that's probably just because it uses flaps to cover the upper legs and shoulders. The helm reminds me of western medieval crossbowmen's helm. Thus, it indeed seems like a crossbowmen's outfit.

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:38 pm

Helm does indeed look like an archer's helm, though its close to a western archer's helm and I'm not so sure it fits with the outfit.

It's without a doubt very nicely drawn and detailed

, but perhaps it could be updated with some african or arabic elements. Its a bit hard to distinguish as coming from hammerfell. Perhaps its the furry feel that it gives, which makes my think its more suited to a colder climate, such as Skyrim.

Keep 'em coming

Lutemoth · Post by **Lutemoth** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:34 pm

Here's that Necromancer of the Regada mountains I was talking about earlier. The thought process that went through my head was:
Should I make him look badass?
Yes, yes, I will
Anyways, enjoy. I'll make an update on that archer/crossbowmen suit in a bit
[url=http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2491/necromancer6ab.jpg][img]http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/2491/necromancer6ab.th.jpg[/img][/url]

ENIGMA* · Post by ENIGMA* » Mon Mar 27, 2006 7:53 pm

thats one badass necromancer Lutemoth

i just think that if a necromancer is in a cave wouldn't he have a fire going? other tan that hew looks like a medicine man.....

PoHa! · Post by **PoHa!** » Mon Mar 27, 2006 9:17 pm

HA! I inspired a Lutey!

Great Necromancer, BTW. Very badass. Very I'll-kill-you-and-then-use-your-reanimated-body-as-my-servant!-esque.

Lutemoth · Post by **Lutemoth** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 5:43 am

wha-hey! My tenth page! I've come quite a ways from that scraggly first image I submitted oh-so-few months ago

moving on, here's a more improved archer:
[url=http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/2430/archer7dx.jpg][img]http://img386.imageshack.us/img386/2430/archer7dx.th.jpg[/img][/url]
This guy here obviously takes his profession very seriously, as you can see.

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:21 pm

Nice. It looks persian to me, I think it's the headgear. Speaking of headgear, are there hats in oblivion? Also, do the armor sets come with helmets?

Morden · Post by **Morden** » Tue Mar 28, 2006 2:32 pm

Awesome. It definately looks more Persian. And I really like how you've use some of the clothing styles and patterns from your other peices. It adds a sense of style between the different concepts.