My theory on Akavir

Arthmodeus · Post by **Arthmodeus** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 2:47 am

Okay, this is just a thought I had. If you look closely, Tamriel looks somewhat like Euasia. High Rock looks like Sweden/Norway. Hammerfell looks like Spain/France. Pyandonia (now confirmed to have an arc shape) would look vaguely like Africa. What if Akavir looked something like the Americas? The Northern (Canadian) part would be the home of the Ice Demons. The Snake Men would inhabit the jungles of South continent. The Cat People would be in the Central area. The Monkey dudes would be in the islands between the two lands. This is only a theory of mine. Tell me what you guys think.

Garriath · Post by **Garriath** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 5:13 am

Nirn, if you ask me, looks nothing like earth. Look at the Warcraft map. That's Earth.

Arthmodeus · Post by **Arthmodeus** » Thu Feb 24, 2005 10:41 pm

Well, look at Tamriel. Dont you think it looks vaguely like Eurasia?

Arthmodeus · Post by **Arthmodeus** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 10:42 pm

Come on. I need more critisism!

Negrodomous · Post by **Negrodomous** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:04 pm

maybe post a pic of both and compare them... i dont even know what/where eurasia or whatever is...

Phaen · Post by **Phaen** » Fri Feb 25, 2005 11:09 pm

Eurasia is Europe+Asia

Graff · Post by **Graff** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:29 am

Earth, wtf is that???

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Actually, except for the eastern provinces, you could be right...

Graff.

Arthmodeus · Post by **Arthmodeus** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 1:36 am

Here is a comparison. The similarity is vague but noticable.

Negrodomous · Post by **Negrodomous** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 1:39 am

i do see a very god resemblence there.

Post by **Haplo** » Sat Feb 26, 2005 1:42 am

Um...not really. I see the Europe semblance, but none of Asia.

andreas of austevoll · Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:00 am

And of course is Norway much more beautiful than High rock

Arthmodeus · Post by **Arthmodeus** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:10 am

I imagine so.

There is also the matter of geographical locations. The northern part has Taigas and a little bit of Tundra. The southwestern area is desert. Though, the Eastern provinces are totally alien.

Sile · Post by **Sile** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:10 am

Yea, the Western Parts or Europe Bear some resemblance as to the coast of High Rock and Hammerfell. The rest to some extent does seem similar but it is much to pushed out of shape.

Nomadic1 · Post by **Nomadic1** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:13 am

The more I look at it, the more obvious the resemblence. Skyrim, High Rock and Daggerfall look like Europe and most of Russia. The western peninsula thing of Valenwood looks like Arabia (with the western bit of Cyrodiil looking like Turkey) whilst the Valenwood-Elseweyre peninsula looks like India on its' side. The Black Marsh mildly looks like South East Asia and China. Morrowind throws off everything though, with the exception of the Firewatch peninsula thing which looks like the easternmost part of Russia bent northwards.

PS: Has anyone else noted that Tamriel is an anagram of I.T. Realm?

PPS: I should also say with the exception of High Rock and Skyrim, the cultural distribution and so forth of Tamriel is different from Eurasia (exception being Ashlanders of Morrowind which seems to correspond with Mongolia)

Arturun · Post by **Arturun** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:09 pm

Another thing to point out: climate similarities

Morrowind is largely a desolate place, as is mongolia

Black Marsh is very marshy (i'm guessing) and jungly (yes that is a word

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Skyrim is very cold, like Siberia

This is as much as I can do (if this much is even correct) without searching the lore

Lord_Gallant · Post by **Lord_Gallant** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:44 pm

I think you are smoking something you ought not.

Interesting theory, but I can't say I would put any faith in it. I just don't see enough of a resemblance to Eurasia to warrant that kind of correlation.

Eraser · Post by **Eraser** » Sat Mar 19, 2005 11:51 pm

High rock and sentinel look very much like europe. it's just the rest of it that doesn't really fit.

Sile · Post by **Sile** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:37 am

Well, they needed some Variety.

Massalinie · Post by **Massalinie** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 6:46 am

I have a feeling that its just a coincidence that they look even vaguely like each other on the western side, but Tamriel is much more square looking and also, what about sommerset Isles? There is nothing like that in Eurasia!

Arthmodeus · Post by **Arthmodeus** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 7:56 am

coincidence

I dont think it's coincidence. I believe they just took a map of Eurasia and changed it up a bit.

And the deal with the Summerset Isles: It's a fantasy map. It doesn't have to have the exact same landmasses.

I just thought that they used real world maps as a base, then altered it a lot.

Massalinie · Post by **Massalinie** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:53 am

well just because they look vaguely similar doesnt mean that it wasn't a coincidence either! land is land it all looks the same. I think we are just being silly here to assume that there must be something behind Tamriel's shape. If anyone knows someone from Bethesda who know the answer to this question then prove it. But without proof I will not accept that the two have anything to do with each other whatsoever!

Arthmodeus · Post by **Arthmodeus** » Mon Mar 28, 2005 5:51 pm

I'll e-mail the Devs and see if they answer. I am sorry if I offended you.

EDIT: I have Emailed Gavin Carter, producer.

Massalinie · Post by **Massalinie** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 6:59 am

Don't worry you didn't offend me, I just think this is a bit silly. I'll be interested to hear what the real answer is though. Perhaps you'll be right

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:16 am

I dont agree about the climates being the same. I'm from Saudi Arabia, and I can tell you that it is nothing like Valenwood!!!

Phaen · Post by **Phaen** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 2:46 am

Its very much like Elsewyr though....

Macar · Post by **Macar** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:17 pm

Then what country is valenwood?

andreas of austevoll · Thu Mar 31, 2005 12:26 pm

I woulde say it is India

Treeman300 · Post by **Treeman300** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:07 pm

Good guess, they probably switched them to make it seem less earth like and more fantastic while maintaining earthly geographic themes

Sgt. Specialsauce · Post by **Sgt. Specialsauce** » Thu Mar 31, 2005 1:56 pm

wow, that is a WEIRD coincedence. i mean, especially High Rock and Hammerfell, they look exactly like Scandinavia and the Spain/France area (respectiveley) and Elseweyr looks like India, and I'd bet that the Northwest corner of it has a similar climate to the india-pakistan border, which is what it would correspond with IRL. and look at Hammerfell, just west of it, you have Islands that could easily pass as the shape of Ireland/England. But i think the one that really gives it away is the isthmus on the south side. It looks alot like Italy, and it terminates in a bulge that looks a whole lot like Sicily. The Colovian West of Cyrodil could go as Turkey, and that central lake in the middle of Cyrodil, if moved to the southwest could go as the Caspian sea. this is much more than a coincedence.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 9:35 am

there is some resemblence in the west

Arthmodeus · Post by **Arthmodeus** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:29 am

Still no reply from the Devs...

Massalinie · Post by **Massalinie** » Fri Apr 01, 2005 10:31 am

Sgt. Specialsauce wrote:wow, that is a WEIRD coincedence. i mean, especially High Rock and Hammerfell, they look exactly like Scandinavia and the Spain/France area (respectiveley) and Elseweyr looks like India, and I'd bet that the Northwest corner of it has a similar climate to the india-pakistan border, which is what it would correspond with IRL. and look at Hammerfell, just west of it, you have Islands that could easily pass as the shape of Ireland/England. But i think the one that really gives it away is the isthmus on the south side. It looks alot like Italy, and it terminates in a bulge that looks a whole lot like Sicily. The Colovian West of Cyrodil could go as Turkey, and that central lake in the middle of Cyrodil, if moved to the southwest could go as the Caspian sea. this is much more than a coincedence.

*glares evilly at sgt.specialsauce*

andreas of austevoll · Fri Apr 01, 2005 1:46 pm

And I think Black marsh are the souteastern asia as it are a lot of swamps and rainforests there.

Thane · Post by **Thane** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:19 pm

I was wondering about Akavir. Very interesting similarities, wow, actually. I think it would be against TR policy to touch Akavir though, these ideas are nice though. They make you wonder. If we're all going crazy. Peace to the peeps. The Chickens, I mean. Are you still reading this? Wow. It's like dude. Go to another forum or something..........or keep reading.

Zalzidrax · Post by **Zalzidrax** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 7:36 pm

Of course it looks like the Earth, I mean Hammerfell would be what? Western Europe, and probably Eastern Europe, too. That makes perfect sense! Don't tell me you've never heard of a [url=http://www.drinkalizer.com/drinks/black-russian.php]Black Russian[/url]...

Arthmodeus · Post by **Arthmodeus** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:18 am

I was wondering about Akavir. Very interesting similarities, wow, actually. I think it would be against TR policy to touch Akavir though, these ideas are nice though. They make you wonder. If we're all going crazy. Peace to the peeps. The Chickens, I mean. Are you still reading this? Wow. It's like dude. Go to another forum or something..........or keep reading.

Well this has nothing to do with TR. It's just an idea of mine.

Savant · Post by **Savant** » Mon Sep 12, 2005 2:09 am

Now that I think about it, they do look alike, except for akavir--the inspriation for that has always been china (in otherwords, not the Americas!) That's how I've heard it, at least.