my armor...it probably breaks lore though

der gottlose · Post by **der gottlose** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:30 pm

It's kind of a sixth house armor. Like stated above, though, it probably breaks and blows its nose in all known lore. If anybody wants me to, though, I will expund on the idea.

And for those of you who I pissed off, I am sorry. I was in a pessimistic mood that fateful day, and while I know that's no excuse, I do hope you can understand.

Starcrunch · Post by **Starcrunch** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:41 pm

This is very nice looking, looks old and rusted and cultish, I can actally forsee a possible use for this...It may work well for certain members (lets call them enforcers for now) of the Molag Bal cult...or maybe just armor for daedric cultists in genreral.

Not sure how it would break lore unless I should really recognize those symbols from somewhere. Should I?

-Starcrunch

Eraser · Post by **Eraser** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:42 pm

Being iron, yeah it kindof does

Try working with Chitin, netch or bonemold, native dunmer styles. Also, their symbol doesn't have to be the red on an armor piece like on those altars, bells, other creepy 6th house stuff etc.

There are also lots of tools and filters you can use to get the emblem to fit the curve of the armor pieces. You're using photoshop right?

der gottlose · Post by **der gottlose** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 8:53 pm

I think I used the heartfire amulet texture. Heh.

And yes, I used photoshop. So, what armor would you definetly (i.e. what I should do right now, not could) like to see like this? Reply within a decent amount of time and I might even get started tonight!

P.S. Glad you like it.

Eraser · Post by **Eraser** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:03 pm

I'd transform this piece into something maybe a daedric cultist would wear instead of a 6th house armor. Use the daedric font, same color as the red 5th house symbol and type some rantings and then make it look as if they were painted on in some crude way.

For 6th house armor, I'd simply go with a shield with the 6th house emblem, in color tones matching whats used on native dunmer styles. Personally I'd go with chitin, since the 6th house was supposed to be all but defunct, they really wouldn't have the resources for bonemold.

While we won't have the 6th house on the mainland, I wouldn't mind a very few shields circulating in black markets.

der gottlose · Post by **der gottlose** » Mon Apr 04, 2005 9:14 pm

Yes sir! Right on it!

I have to go now, though...so I might have something tomorrow...

Goodbye.

der gottlose · Post by **der gottlose** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:33 pm

here's a rough draft chitin cuirass

Stumpytheguar · Post by **Stumpytheguar** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:36 pm

It's pretty! I love it.

[img]http://img28.exs.cx/img28/826/seal9zq.jpg[/img]

Just be sure to start using third party hosting, like this sticky says.

http://www.tamriel-rebuilt.org/old_forum/viewtopic.php?t=10509

Thane · Post by **Thane** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:39 pm

man, that's not very good. It looks like you just changed the tint to a purple and added red blotches or maybe my resolution is just bad. Either way it needs some work.

Thane · Post by **Thane** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:45 pm

My cricism is constructive-I do know how to skin
[url]http://jediknight2.filefront.com/file/NaxRal_Final;32040[/url]

Negrodomous · Post by **Negrodomous** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:52 pm

i think it looks really good.

der gottlose · Post by **der gottlose** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:54 pm

Thanks stumpy! EDIT: and negrodomous

And Thane;

First: it's ROUGH! My first and most recent posts said that. And purple is evil. This is not purple. Is your monitor color off?

Second: that wasn't constructive, you didn't tell me what I should do to change it.

Third: It is horrible resolition. That's what JPEGs do.

Fourth: Sorry to anyone who is offended by this post.

CommonsNat · Post by **CommonsNat** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 8:57 pm

I think it looks nice, but I'm curious of how it would look with a little bit more blackish and toned down a tiny bit more. Would this be much trouble? Or do you think that wouldn't look fine(seeing as I have no experience in this field).

Fourth: Don't worry, that's not offensive.

der gottlose · Post by **der gottlose** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:01 pm

Oh sure, I can edit it. I just wanted to see if people liked the idea/design. I'll probably even redo it completely. It was a rough draft type, A.K.A less than two minutes of playing in photoshop and it was born.

Eraser · Post by **Eraser** » Tue Apr 05, 2005 9:40 pm

Doh! I think you got it backwards

daedric rantings on the iron and 6th house designs on chitin

Thane · Post by **Thane** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 2:29 pm

I told you what looked wrong. Post a new pic please so I can comment on your recent versions.

der gottlose · Post by **der gottlose** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 7:58 pm

Oh...fuck...I did do it reversed. And no, I haven't made another version yet. HUGE paper I had to write. Very time consuming (damned literature)

Thane: Saying "either way it needs some work" if your resolution is bad is not really telling me what to fix. Everyone else (excluding Eraser, for obvious reasons) liked it, so it may be your computer or personal preferences getting in the way of construcitve criticism.

Again, sorry if I offended anyone. It doesn't look like I did, but you never know with some people. I'll probably get back onto this (no, not like that, pervert...jk) within the next week, I'm just not to motivated today. Go figure. Tofu-mayonnaise.

EDIT: I'm trying mommy, I'm trying! It's just, that boy is being a meanie! *eats his cookie and shuts up*

Vyvara Araneae · Post by **Vyvara Araneae** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 8:40 pm

Pardon the interruption, folks. I just wanted to extend a gentle reminder to keep things at a civil level here.

*gives everyone a cookie as incentive*

Thanks in advance!

Thane · Post by **Thane** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:30 pm

:extremely confuse: I like the first pic not the second pic-which one is more recent-i don't know-help me!

Starcrunch · Post by **Starcrunch** » Wed Apr 06, 2005 9:59 pm

Ok, everything looks good to me, agree with Eraser about which should be for the cultists and which for the 6th house, but either way I think the work you presented was high quality. Anyway good look on your paper.

-Starcrunch

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 6:56 pm

are you just hueing it and pasting the "decal" of the sixth house on the armor cause i can do texturing and stuff try making it a black or dark purplish hue like you did for you two daggers

der gottlose · Post by **der gottlose** » Thu Apr 07, 2005 7:21 pm

Sojourn: I know, I'll get on it as soon as possible. And, no, I'm not "just hueing it and pasting the 'decal' of...", I do a lot more than that in photoshop to make it jook like it is. Believe me, Photoshop has toooooo many features. And I use them.

Heh.

EDIT:Did I sound angry? Sorry...I tend to write and talk like I am, but in reality I'm not at all.

P.S. Your new avatar is funny, if slightly too big.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:17 am

Dont get mad, i was just wondering thats all cause im trying to make something to when i get it ready ill put it up

der gottlose · Post by **der gottlose** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:41 pm

Well, here's a screenie of the iron daedric and the textures...I'm too lazy to actually put all of them on, so will someone do it for me? *puppie eyes*

Arthmodeus · Post by **Arthmodeus** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:04 pm

That looks great but could you make the Daedric runes blend in a bit more.

der gottlose · Post by **der gottlose** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:07 pm

WEll, if they are painted on, are they not supposed to be obvious and bright(ish)?

Wait....don't tell me...are they even supposed to be painted on....?

*is confused*

Arthmodeus · Post by **Arthmodeus** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:09 pm

I was thinking that they were carved on.

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:12 pm

If they are painted on make it look more like paint. A bit more blurr for example. And please do not add the red tint to the whole armor.

I'm too lazy to actually put all of them on, so will someone do it for me? *puppie eyes*

Puppie eyes won't help here. We are lazy too

der gottlose · Post by **der gottlose** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:14 pm

Hmm, really? If so, I guess I should just redo the whole thing, as it would not be feasible to carve "red" onto iron armor.

EDIT: Okay Stalker...okay...back to Photoshop...expect it to be a while, though, as I am disappointed with myself.

Damn it.

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:21 pm

der gottlose wrote:EDIT: Okay Stalker...okay...back to Photoshop...expect it to be a while, though, as I am disappointed with myself.

Damn it.

A few more suggestions. Try to make the runes look more like paint. Add some weathering maybe...

der gottlose · Post by **der gottlose** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:29 pm

Do you happen to know the name of a tool in Photoshop 7 that would weather things? I can't locate one...believe me, I've looked for a long time. I was sad when I couldn't locate one. As a matter of fact, I still am.

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:41 pm

der gottlose wrote:Do you happen to know the name of a tool in Photoshop 7 that would weather things? I can't locate one...believe me, I've looked for a long time. I was sad when I couldn't locate one. As a matter of fact, I still am.

THe problem is that I would be really happy if somebody showed it to me too...

Starcrunch · Post by **Starcrunch** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 4:39 pm

For the purposes of the Molag Bal cult I imagined the runes being painted on and the armor having the same stats as normal iron. It's meant to be a little ad hoc armor decorations to honor the Daedra Prince being worshoped.

-Starcrunch

der gottlose · Post by **der gottlose** » Thu Apr 21, 2005 7:54 pm

well, forget it. I've utterly given up on this, as I have the attention span of a decapitated rodent.

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 4:22 pm

use the sharpen, blur, dodge, and burn tools to make stuff look rough.

TÃƒÂºrelio · Post by **TÃƒÂºrelio** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 6:34 pm

Stop worrying so much about offending people, and people need to stop being so offended by little things.

PS7 has alot of nice features, but if you really want to get things done, you should learn and practice using the basic tools rather then the effects. Effects eventually look the same, and its hard sifting thro them all to find the right one when you could have just done it yourself. I also suggest messing with the smug tool with a custom brush.

So far these look good tho, keep it up.

der gottlose · Post by **der gottlose** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 7:55 pm

TÃƒÂºrelio: Amen.

I have had a lot more experience with photoshoop now. I'll probably revisit these sometime in the near future.

der gottlose · Post by **der gottlose** » Fri Jun 03, 2005 9:13 pm

Okay, I was a little inspired...I made a new-ish set, the helm is in this pic. There are paint slpashes and letters. I also made a bone dagger...thing...so, knock yourselves out.

Happy surfing.

EDIT: Oops, forgot to attach pic! Lol

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 6:10 am

I think that the red on the helmet looks too solid. It needs to be a bit less thick in my opinion.

Eraser · Post by **Eraser** » Sat Jun 04, 2005 9:02 am

go for a more rusty color if you're trying to simulate blood.

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