House of Mages

Bjorn · Post by **Bjorn** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 11:14 am

Hi there, I'm new to this place [and from Denmark; excuse my spelling errors], but I do have some ideas...

I'm really fond of mages and I thougt that you maybe could create a palace of sorcery, located in a beautiful garden!!
This isn't going to be a Great House or a faction as great as Mages Guild, but a refugee for all mages - A house of lore.
Maybe there could be some minor quests in this palace. Fx a quest to find a holy relic, or certain flowers to the garden that surrounds the palace, or pray and meditate on a certain place...
There could also be a test in this house, where you should complete a test - Face a number of mages and kill them [maybe just defeat them], or helping them. When this test is done, well... I don't know, but I hope some of you who reads this is getting good ideas...

Stumpytheguar · Post by **Stumpytheguar** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 12:47 pm

I've heard your name before... are you from ESF? And really, your english is better than a great deal of our members who are native speakers! You even know how to properly use a semicolon! Yay!

Your suggestion seems applicable, although I'm not sure where we'd put such a place. Scripting for such quests would be rather simple, all save for the dueling part. Zalzidrax and I have been attempting to work out scripts for such duels for the longest time, and we're having a bit of trouble coming to a reasonable solution.

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:15 pm

And what's so hard in those dueling scripts ?
Now about the idea. I doubt it will fit Morrowind but maybe some sort of inn mages use to visit...

Stumpytheguar · Post by **Stumpytheguar** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:21 pm

Well we generally don't want either party involved in the duel to DIE. That's the problem.

Abramul · Post by **Abramul** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:26 pm

Can you do:

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resurrect
setfight 0
stopcombat

Just put a good healer w/ 100% absorb/reflect, and say they did it.

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:34 pm

Stumpytheguar wrote:Well we generally don't want either party involved in the duel to DIE. That's the problem.

Remember the duel with Karrod ? Small health check should work.

Phaen · Post by **Phaen** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 1:44 pm

Well, the problem is if the player is too powerful- they can just kill their dueling opponent in one hit then!

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 2:17 pm

True. Too bad you can't determine the max damage player can inflict...

Zalzidrax · Post by **Zalzidrax** » Sun Apr 10, 2005 3:44 pm

WEll, its mainly the player dying that is the problem. NPC's can just be resurrected via script. Some weapons can deal 40 damage in one hit, and that's more health than starting characters have. My level 13 mage has only around 70 because I didn't focus on endurance, because I didn't need it. So we'd have to stop the fight when the player gets below 40, more if there's higher level weaponry involved, and taht excludes a great many characters, and makes them lose much more easily than they really should.

I think the best plan is to first, not allow people below 70 health (assuming that there may be daedric weapons involved here) and then have a script running constantly during the match, healing any damage dealt during the frame, and then damaging fatigue an equal amount. A combatant is out when they reach 0 fatigue.

Flycatcher · Post by **Flycatcher** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 7:33 am

Can't you make speciall duelling weapons, like they do no damage but have a damage fatigue when hit enchantment on them?

Stalker · Post by **Stalker** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 8:07 am

Zalzidrax wrote:WEll, its mainly the player dying that is the problem. NPC's can just be resurrected via script. Some weapons can deal 40 damage in one hit, and that's more health than starting characters have. My level 13 mage has only around 70 because I didn't focus on endurance, because I didn't need it. So we'd have to stop the fight when the player gets below 40, more if there's higher level weaponry involved, and taht excludes a great many characters, and makes them lose much more easily than they really should.

I think the best plan is to first, not allow people below 70 health (assuming that there may be daedric weapons involved here) and then have a script running constantly during the match, healing any damage dealt during the frame, and then damaging fatigue an equal amount. A combatant is out when they reach 0 fatigue.

Get PC health, divide it on 3, save to variable. Do a check. Here ya go. Or if his health is really low - just don't allow the fight.

Bjorn · Post by **Bjorn** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:20 pm

Thanks Stumpytheguar:D
Ehm... Sorry, I don't even know what ESF is...

Otherwise I'm very glad that you like my little idea...
But actually my idea was a fairly good palace... (except for the duel)
I imagine a palace surronded by a beautiful garden, could be called garden of twillight, where you see mages wandering around to collect magical ingredients...
Well maybe you could call me a bit sentimental, but I don't see the world of Tamriel as a place of disturbing and wars (all the time...), but also as a great place of lore and beauty

Bjorn · Post by **Bjorn** » Mon Apr 11, 2005 12:29 pm

Thanks Stumpytheguar:D
Ehm... Sorry, I don't even know what ESF is...

Otherwise I'm very glad that you like my little idea...
But actually my idea was a fairly good palace... (except for the duel)
I imagine a palace surronded by a beautiful garden, could be called garden of twillight, where you see mages wandering around to collect magical ingredients...
Well maybe you could call me a bit sentimental, but I don't see the world of Tamriel as a place of disturbing and wars (all the time...), but also as a great place of lore and beauty

Artemis Entreri · Post by **Artemis Entreri** » Wed Apr 13, 2005 3:51 pm

I think there would have to be a pretty big library if this is a place for mages to relax.