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BIG Question... TES

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If i want to make an exterior... and i claim one...
i open TES and go to the cell...

How do i know when my claim stops and somebody others claim continues... I have seen pictures that a modder made a yellow square just in the cell so they know how to stop...

Please explain me how i know where the cell stops.
(explanation may be in dutch, easier for me :P , but english will do too)

edit: dont know if this is the right place to post this but i need an answer :(
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press B and yuoll get those yellow lines
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GOD PRAISE YOU :P
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I just wonder... How big is one(1) cell?
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uhm read it somewhere... 8000(and something) by 8000(and something) grids or whatever the name is... its not very big...
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A cell is 8192 units per side in a square. Aaron and I estimate that a foot is about 24 units, based on the character heights. That would make it about 341 feet (104 metres) on a side.

So 240 cells equals roughly a square mile; 92 cells is about a square kilometre.
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couldnt said it better !! :lol:
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A rule of thumb is 6 ft == 128 game units (the height of Dunmer IIRC).
A cell is 385 ft x 385 ft.

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based on that, how many square miles is Vvardenfall?
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I remember hearing that Vvardenfell is roughly 10 miles in diameter, going along the Y axis. So, assuming of course that Vvardenfell (looking at the map here, and cutting off the odds and evens) is a circle, it's about 31.4 square miles. Now, this is completely hypothetical, I haven't actually check for the number and cells, this just a rough number I'm throwing out there.
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And that is completely false. Vvardenfell is definately not larger than 10 square miles, and probably less. Also, pi(d) is not an area formula.
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Whoops, let me think here. Accidentally did the Circumferance formula. The real answer would be 78.5.

Anyway, as I mentioned, I was going off on completely hypothetical data. I know it was wrong, I thought I made that clear enough but apparently not.
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Learn math, it's cool. Based on your asumptions: it would be about 80 square miles.

None of that actually matter as Vvardenfell is about 43x40 cells which means that its area can be safely estimated as being between 7.7 and 9.1 square miles (depends on what you want to model the shape as).

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actually, the size of Vvardenfell is quiite irrelevant in this topic, and probably, most of you have seen this map: http://til.gamingsource.net/maps/annotated_morrowind_50.jpg

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not very big, but not very small either...
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I fixed my mormulas, it's not a question of retained knowledge.

And for the love of god, I already said that I was basing my equation on Bethesda's old assumption that the landmass was 10 miles in diameter, do you all need me to write this down and have it notorized before it becomes a logical piece of evidence that you don't overlook?
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exact information about game units...found in Morrowind_Scripting_Guide_for_Dummies_8.0

1 game unit = 0.56 inches
50 =28 inches
500 = 23.3 feet
5000 = 233.3 feet
8192 = 385 feet = 1 game cell

1 game unit = 1.42 cm
100 game units = 142 cm = 1.42 meters
1000 game units = 14.2 meters
8192 game units = 116.33 meters = 1 exterior cell

The island of Morrowind itself is 5.00 km north to south and 4.65 km east to west.
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