Showcase(Morrowind)

Hillbilly Man · Post by **Hillbilly Man** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:38 am

I would like to help you. I have made a plugin that has several exterior and an interior cell. I am most interested in exterior. In my showcase I have made a nord island north of Vvardenfell. I would really like to help. Please tell me how I can help and do better. To get to the island take the boat from Khuul that you take to Solstheim[/quote]

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:58 am

welcome

can you provide the coordinates of your island for easier testing?

Hillbilly Man · Post by **Hillbilly Man** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 5:33 am

the island is located at 2,27 and 1,28

kebra · Post by **kebra** » Sun Jan 13, 2008 11:02 pm

Welcome Hillbilly,

I just had a quick look to your esp, i will not comment the Int because i'm not a Lore master but they seems technicaly Ok.
The Ext should be detailed a bit, add rocks, grass, shadows(vertex)... to make the landscape alive. You are on the good way.

You could maybee start a little Int respecting Lores just for the showcase. Don't be afraid, your work is Ok.

Hillbilly Man · Post by **Hillbilly Man** » Mon Jan 14, 2008 1:35 am

Thanks for the Advice. I will make the map more detailed and build a interior for that island to the north of the main one.

Hillbilly Man · Post by **Hillbilly Man** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 3:02 am

I have added some more detail and an interior cell to the house to the North of the island. I made it where it was attacked by daedra. I added some rocks to the exterior. Some of the rooms from the top floor are pictured in the screenshots. Some of the Mead Hall still needs some work.

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 9:08 pm

its looking good

ill get around to doing a full review on the next file you post. some notes as to what i can see in the screens:
-make sure to smooth your land.
-vertex shade under objects that cast shadows (eg. trees and rocks) and around texture borders to make them blend better.

Hillbilly Man · Post by **Hillbilly Man** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:04 pm

Sorry it took me so long. I had to do my homework and feed my guar. I have now added shadows under every tree and rock. All the land is more smooth and detailed now. I didn't add shadows to the island to the north but did spend more time on it's interior cell. Once again I am sorry it took so long.

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:49 pm

3 days aint long

fixings give me time to stare blankly at my screen while bitching at myself to get to work

ill review this tomorow.

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:06 pm

yey review time.

-mod is dirty. to clean it, get TESAME and deleat all referances not pertaining to your mod. the TES3 tag and textures shouldnt be deleated.

isle of thunderthorn
-good on the vertex shading. i also recomend adding some where major textures meet though. it makes the transition more natural.
-you should probably add some rocks on the cliff by the meadhall. it will make it look more natural and add detail.
-there were a couple of floaters and caspers (when the model is showing its nonexistant underside). this is probably cause you smoothed stuff out. there arent too many though.
-there was an unsmoothed, flat part of the coast

isle with golden saints
-no vertex shading. add it around objects with shadows and texture seams.
-this isle also has floaters and caspers.

Thunderthorn Mead Hall
-lighting is at default settings. go to world/interior cell and set it to something similar to the thirks hall.
-several objects, like the dresser and the chest, float and bleed into the walls of the rooms.
-the bowl on the fireplace floats. it needs to be rotated to match the angle of the fireplace stone or moved to a more flat location. the combery in it also bleeds through the bowl.
-the candles on the mead shelf bleed into it. you should also vary the arangement of the mead somewhat, curently it looks really static and fake.
-the throne bleeds into the floor
-the bench floats on one side, it should be rotated.

over all, these are definatly a good start. watch out for physical errors such as flating -- especialy in the interior. you are well on your way to moddership

Hillbilly Man · Post by **Hillbilly Man** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 3:16 am

Mistakes are fixed. I should have looked a little closer at that shelf. It looked aful. Here is the new one. Shadows have been added to the island and rocks to the mead hall. Sorry for the wait.

Hillbilly Man · Post by **Hillbilly Man** » Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:15 pm

Sorry about this. I forgot to smooth this one part of the coast that was a little rough. I figured you would rather have me show a picture of the spot instead of showing you a revised revised revised plugin of Northern Expansion. I am sorry about the trouble. I smoothed it now. If you need me to I also have another island built if this one is not very good.

Hillbilly Man · Post by **Hillbilly Man** » Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:57 pm

Here is a new island. This island is much smaller than the last one I made. Morrowind is the only master file used in this mod.
It is located at (-1,-17)
You can't get there by boat so you will have to use a water walking spell.

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Mon Jan 28, 2008 6:00 pm

-you should vertex shade the area where textures meet
-you had plenty of grass, but no flora (container plants). adding some of those would give mode details and interest to the island.
the island could also use a little more detail in general, we strive for atleast 100 referances per cell. this is a rough criteria though since your island is spaced between several cells.

im glad that you decided to make a new island though, i think you have improved greatly

adding a little more detail in really your main "problem", other then that this isle is good. add some more rocks and a few plants and youll have an exterior promotion.

Hillbilly Man · Post by **Hillbilly Man** » Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:05 am

Thank you for the advice. I added some flora and some rocks. All three cells have more than 100 objects in them and shade has been vertexed.

Here is the update, same cells as last time

Hillbilly Man · Post by **Hillbilly Man** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 1:43 pm

If you looked at the Northern Expansion Islands I discovered a flew flaws. The terrain on the northern half insn't smoothed in one corner. Here is the picture. The main one I worked on recentley was the new island. It is the better and smaller than the other.

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:24 pm

i typed this up a little while back but didnt have time to post it.

the island looks good

in the future i think that you could be broader with your vertex shading (use a higher radius and more sporadic movements). it plays a very subtle role in game so making it exact dosnt mater as much. other then that, promoted for exteriors.

Harke the Apostle · Post by **Harke the Apostle** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 9:38 pm

Congratulations Hillbilly Man!

Hillbilly Man · Post by **Hillbilly Man** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:15 pm

Thank You Thank You Thank You:):):):))

I can't wait until I can get to work.

Now what do I do.
Does this mean I am allowed to make exeriors? How do I claim them.

Thank you Lady Nerraver for reviewing. I think you should be elected president of the forums. I love you:):)

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:34 pm

go to the exteriors: unclaimed forum and find something that looks good. (maps 1-6 are mw)

In the upper right hand corner of the thread is a button that says "claim"

Hillbilly Man · Post by **Hillbilly Man** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:39 pm

Thanks, one more question though. How do I get the sides to match the rest of the land. Are there screenshots of the edge of the claim and how do I know what the land is soposto look like. Sorry for all the questions.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:43 pm

download the relevant map, and the claims surrounding it. load all files at the same time with your .esp set as the main file and mod away.

Hillbilly Man · Post by **Hillbilly Man** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:45 pm

Does that mean I download the big maps like map 2 or 3. Where do I download them at. Once agin sorry for all the questions.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:49 pm

download the claim your map is on. (downloads can be found in the member downloads section) If your claim has claims around it that are not finished then find their respective thread in the exteriors: claimed forum and download the latest WiP. If your claim is on the border with another province, then you are SoL and you have to raise that part of the terrain yourself.

*another note: if your claim is on a border between maps then you will need to download the other map too.

Hillbilly Man · Post by **Hillbilly Man** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:54 pm

Thanks Thrignar Fraxix, I can't wait to get started claiming and working.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 10:58 pm

Glad I could help. If you have any more questions just ask them here.

Hillbilly Man · Post by **Hillbilly Man** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:01 pm

WIPs are works in progress right? If I am modding in one of the maps can I run around and check it out? One more thing, where is the unclaimed exterior forum>

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:09 pm

WELL THEN, it appears that you were not ACTUALLY promoted. I changed your title earlier, but didn't even think to check whether you were in the user groups.

Anyway, you are ACTUALLY promoted now so you should now ACTUALLY be able to see the forums.

You can run around the maps and the WiPs as much as you like. in fact its always a good idea to do so just so you know how everything looks.

Hillbilly Man · Post by **Hillbilly Man** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:09 pm

nevermind. The main Forum Menus just doubled in sise. I found Unclaimed Exteriors.

Lady Nerevar · Post by **Lady Nerevar** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:13 pm

gah, sorry. typed the thing but forgot to press the buttons.

Thrignar Fraxix · Post by **Thrignar Fraxix** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:13 pm

just so you know, if there have been no new posts. and there have only been 8 minutes since your last post in a thread please edit your post next time. I know I posted in between your two posts, but I know you didn't know that when you wrote that.

did that make any sense?

edit: FUCK! NINJA'D AGAIN!

Hillbilly Man · Post by **Hillbilly Man** » Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:30 pm

Sorry, I know now and only edits for now on in cases like that.

Hillbilly Man · Post by **Hillbilly Man** » Thu Mar 06, 2008 4:24 am

I've been meaning to make an interior showcase for a while now but I've just now gotton around to it. This showcase is one simple small house just north of Balmora. The houses name is Showcase House. I already play tested it and didn't find many problems. I found a couple of floaters but thats been fixed so hope you like it.

Tamriel Rebuilt

Showcase(Morrowind)

Showcase(Morrowind)

Showcase Morrowind

Thanks for the Advice

New Screenshot

New Download of The Nordish Island

Updated

Missed a spot.

New Map

Mod

Thank you

Sorry

Interior Showcase