Insect Swarms

Psyborg · Post by **Psyborg** » Mon Jun 28, 2004 3:32 pm

Okay, this has either been already mentioned or is a stupid idea (or both), but I was thinking in the Black Marsh, though that is YEARS away, we could have insect swarms like the Ashlands have dust storms. And instead of covering your eyes with your arms, you could constantly be slapping yourself to get the bugs off.

Just an idea...

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:03 am

Psyborg wrote:...is a stupid idea...

you hit the nail on the head there

Veet · Post by **Veet** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:16 am

This has been discused a little, but the trick is the method of execution here. I can think of three ways of doing this. We could make them a creature, but then that would look silly when you fired an arrow through a swarm of insects and they all die. You could (like you mentioned) make it a weather condition, which is an interesting idea but one hell of an insect swarm. Or we could make them animated statics like in the Bitter Coast sounds mod, but then they would not have any sort of interaction with the player they would just swarm around wherever we placed them.

and for the record I do not think its a stupid idea.

Psyborg · Post by **Psyborg** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 1:35 pm

But what about off the record?

Okay, so it wasn't that great of an idea. But I figured I'd try it out.

Rutsui · Post by **Rutsui** » Fri Jul 09, 2004 8:25 am

Malaria anyone?

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 12:47 am

dude thats an AWESOME idea. which that could be the location of the pest control guild.
check out guilds and factions look for pest control guild (ofcourse)

Hermit · Post by **Hermit** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:09 am

Right, child. Now go play somewhere, preferredly off these Froums.

I like the insect swarm idea. Maybe indeed as a static, as those in teh BC SFX. Maybe make a big one that causes damage when you collide with it, and script it to move. That would surely add to the experience of Argon Jungle.

TÃƒÂºrelio · Post by **TÃƒÂºrelio** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 1:13 am

Well naturally the sounds will add alot to the enviroment, especially the buzz of insects, but a swarm if done properly would be interesting. I think a static(activator actually) would be better for this then an actual weather storm, unless of course it was for a special event like a plague type swarm or something, but not a constant thing.

sirwootalot123 · Post by **sirwootalot123** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 7:04 am

agreed. however, the script that would be needed for this would be MASSIVE.
how about we make the swarms doing things like appearing near corpses in caves and jungles and such?

Dreadmaster Errtu · Post by **Dreadmaster Errtu** » Fri Aug 13, 2004 5:36 pm

cool idea but... ::thinks of giant 3' mosquitoes from a movie:: AAAAAAAAAAAHH!!!

Stumpytheguar · Post by **Stumpytheguar** » Fri Aug 13, 2004 5:50 pm

shandrazi · Post by **shandrazi** » Fri Aug 13, 2004 6:43 pm

Stumpytheguar wrote:<Thinks of how stupid it seemed in dieablo 2 to have swarms of bugs attack you>

You obviously don't live in alabama.

Zalzidrax · Post by **Zalzidrax** » Fri Aug 13, 2004 7:02 pm

Well, if it is a creature, it shouldn't be immune to everything. I think casting God's Fire would be plenty enough to kill off an insect swarm, no matter how big and nasty.

Too bad there isn't an "all weapon damage" immunity, because spells should hurt the bugs, just not weapons.

Garriath · Post by **Garriath** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 8:44 pm

I don't think the weather pattern would be very believable for the Black Marsh, but what if we had, say, a 1% chance of a locust swarm weather condition in Elsweyr/Hammerfel? I think that'd make more sense.

Zalzidrax · Post by **Zalzidrax** » Sun Aug 15, 2004 11:36 pm

Hmm, does sanctuary protect against spells, too? Because if it's only weapons, we could just have a bug swarm creature with 200 pts ce sanctuary.

Veet · Post by **Veet** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 12:10 am

What about "Resist normal weapons" or does that not work for magical weapons?

Zalzidrax · Post by **Zalzidrax** » Mon Aug 16, 2004 12:41 am

Silver weapons will still work and I really see no reason why bugs should be hurt any more by silver or by magic (weapons) than anything else. Magic fire would work great.

It also is something to annoy people who like running around with super powerful equipment and slashing everything. Getting trounced by a bunch of bugs would be fittingly humiliating.

Garriath · Post by **Garriath** » Thu Aug 19, 2004 8:21 pm

Really? I mean, I think after my character's gone as far as she has, she's gone through enough humiliation.

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 5:09 am

how about just having the insect swarms be fields of space where the PC walks through and they get different kinds of deseses.

Aaron · Post by **Aaron** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 5:42 am

I think the best way to do this would be to make the swarms a creature with like... 9999 agility, and a constant effect 9999 sanctuary. That way you couldn't hit them with a weapon. They'd still be quite vulnerable to magic, and should have very low health. The best thing to do would be to group them, so that a single swarm is relatively small, but you place them in groups of 6 or so, with them chained to follow one. So that one wanders, and all the others follow it. That way when you attack them with magic, they don't all die, unless you use an area effect spell. Obviously they shouldn't move extremely fast, and there should be some object that prevents them from attacking you. Of course, weapons with a damage spell would still be able to kill them, because even if you miss the damage spell still goes off, but this is about the most realistic implimentation I can think of. Having them carry diseases as well would add to the realism

Psyborg · Post by **Psyborg** » Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:28 pm

Neato, dude. Very good idea, if this actually is done.

(By the way, I've noticed something interesting. This topic is brought up for approximately two days, then lapses into quiet for another month or so. It's pretty cool to watch, actually. This was the first thread I ever posted... methinks.)

Anonymous · Post by **Anonymous** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 5:00 am

About having an object to make the bugs stay off, there are those bug lamps or something that are lights. We could maybe somehow make those into something to make the bugs afraid.

Psyborg · Post by **Psyborg** » Sat Feb 05, 2005 3:03 am

Good. idea, Muckazoid, I think I might have said something about that already, but if not... well, then I thought it, but thanks for saying it out loud.

(p.s. I was right, you see?)

Savant · Post by **Savant** » Mon Sep 05, 2005 8:10 pm

very unique, very cool idea, but I don't even think you can add new weather effects to morrowind--thats hardwired into the program. I'd probably agree with having it as an animated static, though, like the flies you see in those bittercoast mods. Also, I recommend this feature be only available close to murkwood.

insect swarm is to blight swarm as
murkwood is to red mountain.

Morgoth · Post by **Morgoth** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 1:52 pm

wanksta1218 wrote:dude thats an AWESOME idea. which that could be the location of the pest control guild.
check out guilds and factions look for pest control guild (ofcourse)

*Smacks self in head with large mallot, passes out*

ookami · Post by **ookami** » Wed Sep 14, 2005 3:04 pm

Savant wrote:I don't even think you can add new weather effects to morrowind--thats hardwired into the program.

If true, that's a shame. Certainly there must be some parts of Tamriel with weather effects that don't show up in Morrowind or Solstheim. Windy tropical-type storms, sand storms (which I guess could be faked with ash storms), things of that nature.

Savant · Post by **Savant** » Fri Sep 16, 2005 10:47 pm

"TES Script is also not an SDK (software development kit) that lets you actually work
with and change (parts of) the games source code. ThatÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s why you canÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t use TES
script to, for example, add new weather-effects. Those are hardcoded and you would
need to change the actual game .exe to do that."

-Grahn Buri Ghan's Scripting Manual

Yep, that pretty well covers it.

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