Statement of Intention
Eye of Argonia is a dummy province mod, intended to coordinate assets within Tamriel_Data, maps and lore between Tamriel Rebuilt, Province Cyrodiil, and Beyond Skyrim (where feasible) and serve as a platform to plug a hole in the Morrowind Kalpa that needs to be filled.
It is not going to be in "active" development until such a time that its development would no longer negatively affect the small manpower pools in the other province mods. For now, the initial heightmap ESP exists to fill in mapping space, and no further CS activity is planned.
There is not, to the best of my knowledge, an actual Black Marsh mod being developed right now. If there is, this project is going to take second seat to it, of course.
Overview
Black Marsh is the province least under the control of the Empire. Although "The Argonian Account" is entertainment literature, its portrayal holds a strong kernel of truth.
The Septim Empire controls several "first wave" settlements, these either subverted preexisting Argonian settlements through violent effort, or built on top of older, ruined ones. These are the cities near the ocean, or major waterways, and generally the district centers and major trade hubs. As Black Marsh is a net drain on the Empire, their population number has been artificially inflated and they cannot exist at their current size without outside trade and subsidies.
Many more "second wave" settlements exist to support trade routes and supply legion bases and prison complexes. Most of these are colonial villages in the style of Raven Rock. All but a few of them exist because the Empire desires it, and without subsidies they would be abandoned and fall into ruin.
More of Black Marsh is in native hands, ruled by Argonians who have no desire to deal with the Empire or are in abstract opposition to it. While the secular Argonians have adopted or at least understand Imperial customs and are recognizeable as "normal", the An-Xileel are political mystics who have little love for the Empire, while the Taj Eel Xa'nith are a violent resistant movement, originally centered around the Arnesian Jungle region but spreading along the Cyrodiilic border as well.
More of Black Marsh is wilderness. Here, Hist cultists, feral bandits, and arch-heretics hole up in sunken ziggurats or well-defended caves while the Empire's prisoner-soldiers are trying to make a living and instill civilisation in the worst place on Tamriel.
Faction Design Notes
Secular Argonians
The average Sahxleel has accepted or is at least aware of the Septim's rule of Black Marsh. They live in cities or villages which woule be recognizeable to a foreigner, and while they may worship the Hist (some few are also go "cult shopping" as lay members of the Nine Divines' Imperial Cult), they are nice enough to get along with. The peasants are ignorant, the nobility corrupt, the few members of the Imperial Guilds are sort of weird, but other than their private nature, these are the Argonians you could encounter everyhwere in the Empire. Murderous bandits included.
An-Xileel
The first Argonian political movement, the urban An-Xileel are staunch supporters of a modern (theobureocratic) Black Marsh state. Relatively anti-Imperial, they believe that Black Marsh has been politically stunted by misrule and corruption at least since the priest-kingom was supplanted by a western monarchy. Extremists in the An-Xileel believe the misrule to be deliberate and take a dim view on foreign ideas in Argonian heads, while the mainstream moderates merely believe that the Cyrodiils simply cannot understand Black Marsh properly, as they have no connection to its roots and the Hist god-trees.
Since their resolute loss of a peasant uprising near Soulrest, the extremists are however on the decline.
Taj Eel Xa'nith
Originally a resistance movement against the encroaching Dunmer slavers, the aftermath of the Arnesian war and the annexation of most of the Arnesian Jungle saw an upsurge in membership and radicalisation of the movement. Now racially and violently opposed to non-Argonians, the Taj Eel Xa'nith have spread their influence to most small villages in the northern and western parts of Black Marsh, where they conduct bloody raids against smoothskins and foreign-born Argonians.
Design Note: in the future, the Taj Eel Xa'nith will fuse with and take over the An-Xileel, turning them into the kind of radical pro-Argonian nationalists that would invade and kill their way across a different province the first chance they get.
Hist Cultists
Tribal societies, clustered around hamlets and Hist mangroves. Hippies and cultists. No overarching government.
Syncretic Cult of Seth
The Brotherhood of Seath has been the dominant cult in the city of Gideon since they left the Remanite Cyrodiil.
Decades later, a group of cultists wandered off into Murkwood to find enlightenment and ran across Hist Cultists. What emerged out of the jungle resembles one third Nibenese Cult, one third Hist Cult, and one third something else.
Worst of all, Seth or whatever is posing as it, is responding to their prayers in a fashion untraceable by outsiders, and it has changed the cult profoundly.
Today, they dominate the city of Helstrom (where the Empire cannot reach them), several outlying villages in the swampy interior of the province, and seek to spread their influence. Many cities in Black Marsh have one or two cells of Sethites, and they are trying to reach northwards to Narsis.
Design Note: an Arena religion, the Brotherhood of Seth is scaled down to local levels and takes over some of the Lore behind the Dark Brotherhood, including the Shadowscales, as the Dark Brotherhood is in line with its vanilla Morrowind portrayal: a worldly guild of professional assassins in opposition to the cooky death cultists of the Morag Tong.
The Empire
The Empire is struggling to regain control after the recent uprising around Soulrest.
The capital of Lilmoth is under continued political threat by the An-Xileel, the Taj Eel Xa'nith are creating trouble, Helstrom continues to be a unreachable festering wound that oozes assassinations and cultists, and threats of aggressive pirates from the east are causing unrest in the fortress-harbor of Thorn.
The only booming enterprises in Black Marsh are the notorious prison complexes in Blackrose and Stormhold, and they are always receiving guests.
Mages Guild and Imperial Archeological Society
Both guilds are interested in Black Marsh for its murky history.
The Mages Guild tends to send its most hopeful alchemist apprentices to train in Black Marsh as well as its malcontents, which turns a lot of young, ambitious people loose on an underfunded bureocracy, making the guild halls no less lethal than the swamps.
Design Note: the main quest of Eye of Argonia, the search for the relic in question (which ultimately would not be found) would be sponsored by the IAS.
East Empire Company
Tasked with sustaining trade across the eastern provinces, a lot of "second wave" settlements are ruled over by mercantile nobility sponsored and at the mercy of the EEC.
Turning a profit in Black Marsh is often like wringing blood from a stone, and with the peasant uprising around Soulrest, the EEC's focus has turned away from the big plantation and logging and back to the little rest-stop hamlets. Suddenly forced to turn a profit, local magnates and nobles are scrabbling for whatever riches they can get their hands on and mercenaries and adventurers are in high demand.
Notable Settlements
Lilmoth
Capital of Black Marsh and seat of the Imperial King.
Gideon
A city which for all intents and purposes is a Nibenese city, with the Brotherhood of Seth (the original one) as the ruling cult and political power.
Stormhold
Nearly a border pass to Morrowind, trade that fuels lesser settlements passes through Stormhold from Narsis.
Thorn
A massively fortified city and harbour located in the Thornmarsh coast, Thorn is the major seat of Imperial power on the eastern coast and one of the few harbours which is capable of servicing the massive Imperial warships.
Set to protect the entire east of Tamriel from smugglers, pirates, and an invasion from Akavir, the legionnaries were forced to sit by idly as Dunmer and Argonians slaughtered each other during the Arnesian War and many have taken to various vices.
Misc. Things
Kothringi
The silver-skinned human race continues to be extinct.
Lilmothiil
The vulpine beast race, thought to be related to the Khajiit, continues to be extinct.
Cantemiric Velothi
The Cantemiric Velothi inhabited what is now the Arnesian Jungle before it was flooded during the late first era. Most of their strongholds remain at the bottom, underneath the massive root network.
The Cantemiric Velothi themselves migrated north and joined mainstream Dres society.
Ayleids
Ayleid ruins are centered around the border to Cyrodiil. Lore developed for Province: Cyrodiil takes precedence.
2016-04-10 14:00
22 hours 11 min ago
A modder known as zackg was working on an Argonia mod some years ago. I seem to remember him making some models, with some screenshots shown on some other forum somewhere on the internet, but nothing substantial was made and the project, such as it, is now dead.
This is a good idea to collate everything in one place so province mods can offer a consistent vision of Tamriel.
2016-01-26 02:09
7 months 1 week ago
His laptop actually got stolen and he had no backup for it.
2015-09-28 20:13
2 years 6 months ago
There is supposedly some TESIII Black Marsh mod project stealthily ongoing, but they are very secretive (if it's even real).
For other mods, Silgrad Tower attempted to make one for Oblivion, there's this thing and of course Beyond Skyrim has one in the making as well.
2015-09-28 20:13
2 years 6 months ago
Elaboration on the Brotherhood of Seth. Did pass muster of Gnomey and Infragris, so it can plopped into TR and P:C if so desired.
2018-08-14 07:30
6 years 3 months ago
Apologies if the following question is nonsensical given lore established by TR/other province mods/been hashed on IRC, and my possibly faulty memory if the question is explicitly answered in Morrowind or earlier lore, but are foreign born Argonians even a thing?
The Argonian life cycle is, to the best of my recollection, so intertwined with the Hist can Argonians be born outside of Black Marsh and still be Argonians in any sense of the word without access to the Hist sap often said to be responsible for both their forms and intelligence? And if their are Argonian populations native to other regions (in the sense of being born in them) then does that imply that Hist sap or even live trees, as seen in Oblivion, are extensively exported from Black Marsh to the other provinces to support those Argonian populations?
That would then, be a commodity which the Empire would likely try to control, as well as something that would completely dominate the reproduction life (at least) of Imperialized Argonians in the other provinces, which in turn, could provide both quest hooks in the current province mods, as well as a quest chain in any hypothetical Argonia mod. And provide some way for Imperial rulers forced to extract something they value from the province to make a profit.
2015-09-28 20:13
2 years 6 months ago
It's not a nonsensical question.
Foreign born Argonians are very much a thing. While they don't ingest hist sap (and as such don't carry bits and pieces of the Hist soulmass within them), they are about as sapient and capable as any other Argonian. They might be lacking some inherent understanding or spirituality that the native born Argonians have, but the difference would be subtle.
The Hist sap was responsible for uplifting the tree-climbing lizards of Black Marsh, but it's not some sort of a drug whose absence will regress the Argonians: once uplifted (and it wasn't intentional on part of the Hist to begin with), they are going to stay uplifted. As such, the whole hist sap smuggling and selling business is not going to happen.
2017-10-30 13:01
2 weeks 2 days ago
Rulers from Arena, and their settlement's political rivals:
(Settlement names in bold for easier reading)
City-States:
-King Herula of Archon, rivals are Lilmoth and Thorn
-King Claudios of Blackrose, rival is Lilmoth
-Queen Demia of Gideon (the city, not the religious order which has a base in the city), rival is Soulrest
-King Germanus of Helstrom, rival is Stormhold
-Queen Artomeda of Lilmoth, rivals are Archon and Blackrose
-Queen Heciana of Soulrest, rival is Gideon
-Queen Aphiana of Stormhold, rival is Helstrom
-King Tibus of Thorn, rival is Archon
Towns
-Prince Pilerius of Greenspring, rival is Tenmar Wall
-Duke Germanicus of Tenmar Wall, rival is Greenspring
-Princess Tabiana of Riverwalk, rival is Greenglade
-Baroness Macedetera of Greenglade, rival is Riverwalk
-Prince Demetrus of Moonmarch, rival is Rockgrove
-Count Diocletate of Rockgrove, rival is Moonmarch
-Baroness Demetera of Seaspring, rival is Rockpark
-Princess Dematea of Rockpark, rival is Seaspring
Villages
-Lord Tibius of Alten Corimont, rival is Rockpoint
-Lord Augusterius of Rockpoint, rival are Alten Corimont and Alten Markmont
-Lord Augustrandos of Alten Markmont, rival is Rockpoint
-Lady Judiana of Alten Meirhall (forgot to look for its rival and too lazy to go back and look atm, but will in the future)
-Lady Niketera of Branchgrove, rival is Portdun Mont
-Lord Diacletate of Branchmont, rival is Riverbridge
-Lord Caligias of Chasecreek, rival is Branchmont
-Lord Caligius of Chasepoint, rival is Stonewastes
-Lord Diacletian of Stonewastes, rivals are Chasepoint and Glenbridge
-Lady Niketera of Glenbridge, rival is Stonewastes
-Lord Julos of Longmont, rival is Rockspring
-Lady Hecatea of Portdun Mont, rival is Branchgrove
-Lord Demetrius of Riverbridge, rivals are Branchmont and Seafalls
-Lord Hericus of Rockguard, rival is Glenbridge
-Lady Athatea of Seafalls, rival is Riverbridge
-Lord Tibides of Rockspring (didn't realize UESP doesn't have the rival listed, once again I'll do this later)
Rawr.
2015-09-28 20:13
2 years 6 months ago
Current region setup. Thanks Charger24!
Benthic Yobesh
Part of the ancient realm of the Hist submerged violently beneath the waves in the prehistoric wars between the Elhnofey. Argonians call the region Yobesh-Xul - "Dead Yobesh", and shun the area. Aside from a handful of Imperial bathyscaphe-surveys, Benthic Yobesh (designated as such by the IAS to distinguish from the littoral Yobesh ruins found along the eastern coasts of the Althii isles) is mostly uncharted. While the seas in Benthic Yobesh are deep enough for ships to traverse safely, the twilight realm of ancient, twisting trunk-husks, strange aquatic wildlife, and scattered volcanic atolls unsettles many sailors, who prefer to take a wide arc into Lilmoth from the north.
Okuwun Rahei
This region is characterized by squat, twisted rock structures that begin in the lowlands at the base of Chixathe Mesa and continue far out into the sea. Some Argonians belive that these are the petrified cores of ancient Hist trees, frozen by their own kind in earliest times for reasons long forgotten. Others believe the spires are the roots of dead volcanoes which erupted during the cataclysmic wars between the ancient Ehlnofey, as the first domains of the Hist sank beneath eastern waves. The spires, which the Argonians call "Okuwu", are now mostly overgrown with leafy vegetation, and many are topped by huge, brilliantly-colored flowers. Unlike much of the rest of Black Marsh, where one can hardly take a step without treading on some vegetation or another, the plant life in Okuwun Rahei almost exclusively grows on or around the rocky spires, leaving the ground covered in a loose, soft layer of sand.
Tulmek Washes
Twin massive, treacherous deltas whose deep and swift-moving channels form the main barrier between the two southerly Imperial centers of power in Black Marsh. Some isles within the rush host isolated Argonian villages, but others, home to dangerous local fauna, are shunned even by the Saxhleel. Further inland, the city of Blackrose and its infamous Asylum sit upon the region's only safe (though dimunitive) harbor, surrounded by the deadly waters of the Washes to the west and south, the impenetrable deepwoods of the [Murkwood] to the north, and the well-patrolled estuaries of Nushara Bayou to the east.
Banujha Basin
The extensive, many-forked upper tributaries of the Banujha River, a distinct river basin from that of the Murkwood-Lake Ulaish system. Today, the region is an overgrown, rarely patrolled, vine-choked jungle, but long ago, the region was much more hospitable; this "little Nibenay" formed the heartland of the splinter Barsaebic Ayleids, whose ruins still can be found amidst the rushing rapids and waterfalls. The Banujha Basin is bounded within [Murkwood] by a range of mountains to the east that separate the watershed from its larger counterpart.
Nha Enasa
Bleak, thickly forested hilly bogland covered in tall grasses. The most southerly extent of the great eastern megafungus varieties, with the local variety growing in a vaguely conical shape. The ecosystem of Nha Enasa is not toxic to men and mer like the innermost Argonian marshes, but the region is still dangerous due to bog creatures, trolls, and hostile local cults. A single road from Gideon out to the colony towns of Glenbridge and Greenspring is maintained with difficulty at immense expense to the Legion. Another, more northerly route via Rockguard has fallen into ruin in the past century. The eyeless Orma tribe of Nedes once inhabited the northern swathe of the region, along the edge of the Blackwood, but were long ago forced out of the province. This is also wherewhere Dorsza Pass would be (from 2920 - Last Seed)2:31]
Cape Percar
The most developed part of modern Imperial Black Marsh, named after a famous hero from the Remanite invasion of the country. A stony, but resource-rich region, Cape Percar is a hub for forestry and mining (but reliant on imports for food). The cape region has been heavily deforested by the Empire, though hardy native vegetation survives in many peripheral areas. Relations with the once-friendly tribes of native Argonians in Cape Percar and the edges of the Banujha Basin have soured dramatically since the Empire increased the scope and scale of its resource extraction efforts; much of the landscape has been rendered barren or toxic by careless Imperial authorities. A recent native uprising and hurricane have thrown the region into further chaos, and only after a costly and bloody Legion intervention was order restored.
Chixathe Mesa
A pronounced, but not especially tall landform that divides the Arnesian river system to the north from the massive drainage basin of Murkwood to the south. The western mesa is the lifeline of the Empire's presence in the north, providing a corridor of relatively safe travel above the treacherous jungles and deepwoods on either side. The Argonian villages on the eastern part of the mesa (where Imperial authority is scarce) are frequent targets for Dres slavehunters. Chixathe Mesa is very old, and has been dug through with the hives of massive local insects, ancient fortresses of the Cantemiric Velothi, and older, stranger constructions further still inside. Many promontory arches and overhangs jut out over the edge of the mesa, dangling vines far into the marshes below.
Althii Archipelago
Ecologically, politically, and economically separated from the rest of Black Marsh, the Archipelago was once the core territory of the nomadic Lilmothiit, before their extinction in the Second Era. Many unique airborne fauna, most passive. The Althii islands are rocky, with many deep harbors; for this reason, the region was the center of the Reman Empire's administration in Black Marsh. Though few visible signs of the Lilmothiit remain outside of Lilmoth itself, the vast palaces and plantations of the Reman-era lords remain, slowly falling into ruin over the centuries as Lilmoth gradually loses its primacy to Soulrest.
Hatandros Bight
A windswept, barely-inhabited headland, the Bight is a place of sharp rocks, biting insects, and pounding waves. Parasitic shelled creatures here have pushed out nearly all other higher forms of life. Additionally, vegetation here is almost uniformly unpleasant, with nasty spikes, acids, and tangled thorned vines. Passage by land is extremely difficult. Due to its hostile nature, Hatandros Bight has become home to a smattering of brave or foolhardy pirates, smugglers, slavehunters, and recluses, some of whom are deserters from the Imperial Navy at Thorn.
Nushara Bayou
Past Lake Ulaish, saltwater seeps back up the drainage basins of eastern Argonia, forming the Nushara Bayou. Unlike the Tulmek Washes further east, boat travel is common here, though the channels change rapidly and often, requiring skilled navigators to avoid becoming lost. The city of Archon - the most visible remnant of ancient Cantemiric Velothi architecture, now a thriving trade port - is found on the coast. Trees can be found throughout the bayou, their roots reaching far deeper than the shallow waters. Their combined canopies cover the innermost parts of the region in a rather pleasant midday twilight.
2015-09-28 20:13
2 years 6 months ago
Argonian Agriculture
The Argonian Account notes that Cyrodiil-style plantations do not work out in Black Marsh and that the “backwater” Argonians practice subsistence farming. Large-scale plantations are a Cyrodiilic import which failed.
There is a good case to be made that the Argonians get a lot of their food by hunting and fishing. Unlike in historical times, there is no royal privilege for hunting, so they are considerably more free than the typical medieval peasant that a lot of of worldbuilding is compared against.
But, hunting and fishing aside, what exactly are they farming?
Generally
The Treehouse Culture
The Boat Culture and the Coast Culture
Valley of Storms and dry lands
2018-08-13 09:52
15 hours 37 min ago
One thing you missed that makes a lot of sense for the Argonians to eat: bugs.
Most Argonains being descended from tree lizards (though I'll also note the frog descended Paatru here) they probably have quite a lot of regular (read: not giant) bugs in their diet, not just the ones humans eat like Crickets or Grubs either; flies, worms, maybe even some arachnids (pardon for that mental image) would make sense for their diet. They also are probably easier to rear in the swamp than conventional livestock and less subject to the myriad diseases.
Wouldnt scale well, and ingame hard to design nicely (very activator reliant), but still would be good as a general side-element.
Edot: just to reiterate, not talking about giant insects. Got enough of those being farmed in morrowind and doing that again would be espeically boring in blackmarch.
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2022-05-05 02:13
2 years 6 months ago
What is this map based off of? I tried to overlay it with TES Arena's map and couldn't quite line it up.