Old Ebonheart Section | Tamriel Rebuilt

-change dirtroad to mainroad - fairly simple and straightforward.
-remove excess smoke from chimneys/remove excess chimneys/improve chimneys
-changing/improve the sign outside 'Eurilon: Weaponsmith', which looks rather cobbled together.
-make adjustments to the coastline to remove the lumpy rock look.
-add detailing at dock
-increase height of Old Ebonheart Castle's towers

Workflow

This is the file where dialogue, quests, and claims for the eastern Thirr should be merged. Do not edit this file without also loading TR_Mainland.esp, and do not merge other esps into it without also loading TR_Mainland.esm! (see editing guidelines)

Link to the previous versions (old Merge-type node)

Merged Bugfixes:

OE Imperial Archeological Society: remove Numidium plans

"join the East Empire Company"

Merged Claims:

Oh What Customs!

Illicit Inspiration

A Criminal Lawyer

Ebon Tower Interior #3 and #21

Ebon Tower Interior #6

Ebon Tower Interior #5

Ebon Tower Interior #8

Ebon Tower Interiors #11, #12 and #13

Ebon Tower Interior #4

Ebon Tower Interior #17 and #18

Comments

Link to the old Merge-type

Link to the old Merge-type node

Also reposting bugreports I’d put there:

(some of these already fixed- see Rats' changelog)

– usage of "middle classes", "lower classes" terminology is with very modern connotations here, is that acceptable? sounds like the sort of soc-anal tone that used to be avoided
– "the Castle, the very see of Imperial power in Morrowind." -- "see" a specifically religious meaning? is this supposed to be "seat"?
– is any sound effect available for the minstrel's songs? plucked strings?
– "wings of kynareth": given the description, if the PC is a Cult member maybe the song could teach a small spell (i.e. remembering the words... if PC is not dumb, or having it repeated to learn) (EDIT: not a good idea since the effect is “regen magicka”, which shouldn’t be taught to the PC)
– minstrel again, in the "minstrel's lament", what's "and how a lone drum is left beating"? before that it was how fallen, how treacherous and how feeble which okay make sense, but "how" what here? was it supposed to be "how alone" something?
– as an east egg the zingamajigs seller could also sell a sleeper bauble (some completely innocuous item among all the others with nothing special except a slightly differently worded name which silently replaces itself with an enchanted one when in the player's inventory, or after being examined)
– (TR_m3_Antio_Florane) I don't like "expert dungeoneer" at all. The "adventurer" afterwards may pass in that context but do you really want to use "dungeon" in the NRP gaming sense?
– (TR_m3_Antio_Florane) "How many tombs you've" - bad grammar intentional?

by Atrayonis on Wed, 2016-11-02 19:40

Just three replies, because I don’t feel qualified to answer the others.

Re “middle class” (etc), I’d say something else should be used. There are few references to lower classes, but that’s all there is in vanilla (and TR so far). Nobility and peasants, the poorer folk should be better, I think.
I think it should be seat. It might have been intentional – See as in Holy See is an actual English expression. The German version is Heiliger Stuhl (holy stool), but it’s entirely circled around the confines of the Vatican. Not something that should be exported to Tamriel. I guess it would depend if that was intentional, though.
“Dungeoneer” sounds weirdish like DnD, but “Adventurer” is used enough times that it could be used instead. It seems to be a perfectly valid job.

– (especially with the move to PT data) Shouldn't the people in OE, imperial nobles in particular, have non-vanilla clothes now? (e.g. non-dunmerish extravagant robes)
– the amount of trainers I've encountered around the city makes me suspect they weren't all intended to be trainers, but rather a lot were copied from NPCs elsewhere who happened to be trainers. I didn't tag most of them though - the ones living in their own houses seemed to get a purpose that way, in retrospect they might not all make sense.
– it seems a lot of the included general dialogue only covers the "Commoner" class - e.g. most traders, warriors etc... have only the default vanilla entry on rumors, secrets etc.

T_De_Pan_01 are all wildly misplaced, the model’s coordinates were “fixed” because the rotation center was off so now they all need to be repositioned manually,

T_MwDe_SetInd_Cul2Empty – was fixed on the Data side but may need more switching in the file

MG guildhall needs unexpell ring added

World errors, misc, etc:

T_Imp_Furn_Painting_03a   Old Ebonheart, Guild of Mages   4540   3211   15401   "flickers"
in_c_pillar_wood   Old Ebonheart, Guild of Mages: Basement   3904   4032   15232   "flickers"
in_c_pillar_wood   Old Ebonheart, Guild of Mages: Top Floor   4352   3840   14848   "flickers"
sc_windwalker   Old Ebonheart, Guild of Mages: Top Floor   3891   4005   15343   "at least trap this daedric staff? it's out of line of sight"
T_Bk_HandbookOfTheDevoutTR   Old Ebonheart, Guild of Mages: Top Floor   4253   3946   14888   "should this book be in the MG? also ''Almsivi, my friends!'' :("

com_chest_02_v_weapon01   Old Ebonheart, Guild of Fighters   4596   1092   12246   "dozens of bows in each of all dormitory chests"
TR_m3_Sharnoga gra-Mal00000000   Old Ebonheart, Guild of Fighters   3570   180   11971   "upper floors rather empty, only one npc, unfinished?"
orcish_helm   Old Ebonheart, Guild of Fighters   3574   546   12114   "rests on nothing"
T_Imp_SetMw_I_Pillar_01   Old Ebonheart, Guild of Fighters   3648   576   11712   "flickering"
in_c_wall_rich   Old Ebonheart, Guild of Fighters   3648   -192   11712   "slight flickering"
in_c_wall_rich   Old Ebonheart, Guild of Fighters   4160   -704   11712   "slight flickering"
T_Imp_SetMw_I_Pillar_01   Old Ebonheart, Guild of Fighters   4416   576   11712   "flickering"
T_Imp_SetMw_I_RichRoof_01   Old Ebonheart, Guild of Fighters   4032   -192   12224   "flickering"
T_Imp_SetMw_I_RichRoof_01   Old Ebonheart, Guild of Fighters   4160   -448   12224   "flickering"
T_Imp_SetMw_I_Pillar_01   Old Ebonheart, Guild of Fighters   3904   1088   11968   "flickering"
in_c_wall_rich   Old Ebonheart, Guild of Fighters   4160   -704   11968   "flickering"

in_com_traptop_01   Old Ebonheart, Grand Chapel of Talos: Towers   -1328   0   3180   "coming from this trapdoor = sends a bit too far forwards, chin into plants"
T_De_Cm_AmuletInd_01   Old Ebonheart, Legion Boarding House   -564   -1070   696   "indoril amulet? why here"
Furn_Com_Kegstand   Old Ebonheart, Legion Boarding House   -451   -1442   -65   "cannot pass through between table and stand, reduce keg scale to at least 0.8 and push back amap"
T_Com_Var_DoorVault_01   Old Ebonheart, Imperial Archaeological Society: Basement   -953   388   -640   "this is stuck, probably has lock=0 bug"

BM ice dagger Old Ebonheart, Iela Free-Bear's Exotic Weapons -1414 -1210 -36 "is that a good idea? the bloodmoon exclusive material made by secretive nords. not unconceivable finding it in OE but placing special high-level contents out of their context is characteristically ''moddy'' and it's not like there's a lack of weapon resources in the mw community from which to pick something special to have here"

Old Ebonheart, The Fetcher's Pawn   3585   2752   14786   "trapdoor rotates on itself. not linked to = ..."
in_com_traptop_01   Old Ebonheart, The Fetcher's Pawn   3573   2728   14912   "... = not linked to this, there's an upper floor in the same cell"
T_Imp_Furn_Painting_04a   Old Ebonheart, Piand Morrick's House   256   -759   385   "flickers"
in_com_trapbottom_01   Old Ebonheart, Voatrix Xania: Potter   -576   -576   128   "top of ladder flickers a bit"
T_MwCom_Var_Bl2Chpfood20   Old Ebonheart, Emaroc Harquart's Baked Goods   4591   4910   16192   "the shadowlighting here is uncanny magical ingame"
ex_common_door_01   Old Ebonheart, Emaroc Harquart's Baked Goods   3760   4328   16226   "lower edge of wall bleeds out of the door"
T_IngMine_PearlBlack_01   Old Ebonheart, Ghurmag gra-Shula's House   3920   4192   15786   "pile of jewels right at eye level when entering and no one around. npc should at least be at the corner near here and without AIWander"
bk_corpsepreperation2_c   Old Ebonheart, Ghurmag gra-Shula's House   3591   4562   16015   "floats. was something originally under that deleted from data?"
ex_nord_door_01   Old Ebonheart, Raleth's House   -90   -136   -141   "doormarker placement gets you somewhat stuck in bed here, pull back a bit"

in_de_ship_cabindoor   Old Ebonheart, Niben's Wind: Cabin   3843   4196   12622   "inner doormarker tad too forward, can be stuck on chair"
com_chest_02_vault_03   Old Ebonheart, TEM Princess Morgiah   -7   -810   190   "this is lock100 but blocked from sight"
TR_m3_imperial_deckhand00000001   Old Ebonheart, TEM Princess Morgiah   42   482   -1104   "this guy is stuck spawned between..."
T_MwCom_Var_Bl2Chpfood20   Old Ebonheart, TEM Princess Morgiah   -14   454   -1042   "... door and barrels"
com_chest_02_vault_01   Old Ebonheart, Imperial Navy Command Post   2515   4957   20566   "seen the exact same chest with same contents in the navy ship. may need new random high-level ones"
in_com_trapbottom_01   Old Ebonheart, Southern Watchtower   -48   32   847   "when entering from above trapdoor, doormarker spawns stuck in crates and barrel"
TR_imp_guard0000000B   Old Ebonheart, Gate: Western Tower   273   -615   130   "guard should be in the adjoining room where the valuables are"

TR_sc_m3-278_placeholder Old Ebonheart, Imperial Archaeological Society: Top Floor

ownership:

TR_m3_Olres Iladri   Old Ebonheart (6,-19)   54731   -151091   1173   "sells his lantern"
TR_m3_Sallus Pepander   Old Ebonheart (6,-19)   54556   -151764   1183   "sells all the Scales"
TR_m3_Turunstrid   Old Ebonheart (6,-19)   54492   -150611   1175   "sells his lantern"
TR_m3_anjzhirra   Old Ebonheart, Anjzhirra's Rare Goods   4470   3837   15618   "sells all her kitchenware behind..."
TR_imp_guard   Old Ebonheart, Anjzhirra's Rare Goods   4510   3959   15618   "replace with non-wandering guard, he stuck like a fool"
T_Dwe_ExplodoBody_01   Old Ebonheart, Imperial Archaeological Society   -524   1032   73   "no ownership on all these objects"
TR_m3_Calsa Attius   Old Ebonheart, The Mother Alessia   4451   3741   15490   "why does she sell green lichen? not random"
misc_com_redware_platter   Old Ebonheart, The Mother Alessia   5103   3755   15547   "maybe she shouldn't be selling the stuff on the tables either"
furn_com_rm_table_05   Old Ebonheart, Yaguz gro-Dhaluk: Clothier   3085   3631   14940   "sells his pants"
T_IngMine_Amber_01   Old Ebonheart, Emercius' Quality Wares   -911   -1022   1546   "sells their own jewels from upstairs? that as supposed to?"
goblin_shield   Old Ebonheart, Eurilon: Weaponsmith   128   -438   645   "is he supposed to sell this? trophy?"
apparatus_j_alembic_01   Old Ebonheart, Unaarie's Elixirs   515   55   311   "shouldn't sell her own apparatus?"
nordic claymore   Old Ebonheart, Yessu Zeddashpalit: Armorer   -431   -498   644   "should the weapons hung in his room be sold?"
TR_m3_Kassad   Old Ebonheart, Kassad: Herbalist   -25   407   2   "sells kwama eggs, rat meat and scamp skin, from ingred containers?"
ingred_rat_meat_01   Old Ebonheart, Kassad: Herbalist   309   -74   313   "that rat meat"
Com_Sack_02_Ingred   Old Ebonheart, Kassad: Herbalist   -16   576   -175   "and that scamp skin"
barrel_01_cheapfood20   Old Ebonheart, Kassad: Herbalist   -82   575   -223   "and those eggs"
barrel_01_cheapfood20   Old Ebonheart, Kassad: Herbalist   588   595   -95   "and those eggs, etc"
ingred_muck_01   Old Ebonheart, Kassad: Herbalist   255   287   -256   "and all those mucks should be de-owned?"

NPCs / dial /...:

TR_m3_Sallus Pepander Old Ebonheart (6,-19) "vanilla isn't respectful of nolore for trader class, many topics - if these aren't supposed to have any other dialogue give them another or make a custom StallVendor class"

TR_m3_Felmo Ilveroth Old Ebonheart, Grand Chapel of Talos "topic 'join the Imperial cult' gives vanilla locations in this cell"
TR_m3_Neeshula Old Ebonheart, Grand Chapel of Talos: Towers "for instance this one does have something else on 'join the imperial cult'"

TR_m3_Guard Exemplar   Old Ebonheart, Grand Chapel of Talos   "Background 'I am Guard Exemplar, Guard and Layman...' these guys need nolore or/& custom entries"
TR_m3_imperial_deckhand   "Greeting: I don't think we've been introduced, outlander. I'm Imperial Deckhand. How can I help you?"
TR_m3_imperial_deckhand   "Background: I am Imperial Deckhand, Commoner and Recruit of the Mainland Imperial Legion."

TR_m3_Merxia Vendicci   Old Ebonheart, Grand Factor's Manor   "btw this is the 'Grand Factor's house and she says I am 'the Director of the Mainland EEC' = which is it? if Director is not the title simply decapitalising it works"
TR_m3_Merxia Vendicci   Old Ebonheart, Grand Factor's Manor   "on 'join the East E C', 'being a member of Solstheim branch doesn't' etc. - and also besides, couldn't this refer to Bloodmoon events if passed?"
TR_m3_Merxia Vendicci   Old Ebonheart, Grand Factor's Manor   "on the 'please contact Solstheim option, 'Then I'll send a messenger.' = does something happen? if so she should refer to it when asked again"
TR_m3_Aetia Nemesia   Old Ebonheart, East Empire Company Headquarters   "shouldn't you be 'joining' here, if anywhere, rather than from the Director/Grand Factor?"
TR_m3_Cassynderia Lys   Old Ebonheart, East Empire Company: Offices   "this one says you should speak to a Factor to join and there's one in 'X, Y and Z'..."

TR_m3_Hamal Old Ebonheart, Hamal's Redguard Goods "condition 'Shield of Mad-Hoosa' greeting against player having it in inventory, because TalkedToPC resets"
TR_m3_Madakal Old Ebonheart, Hamal's Redguard Goods "especially un-greetful at Hello 5. maybe supposed to be looking at the swords? if so remove wander? isn't quite towards them"

TR_m3_Emmon Jucanis Old Ebonheart, Imperial Archaeological Society: Top Floor "trains long blade, block, armour? not very relevant to archeology?"
in_c_door_arched Old Ebonheart, East Empire Company Headquarters: Basement 3911 4285 15936 "some guard should be around here?"

TR_m3_Cordo Torcusius   Old Ebonheart, Legion Boarding House   "are they supposed to provide bed to legion player?"
TR_m3_Naamalvu Erendi   Old Ebonheart, The Empress Katariah   "doesn't yet rent beds. there are lots of them too, none locked"
TR_m3_Valia Vautere   Old Ebonheart, The Moth and Tiger   "missing beds renting, beds = 'I don't like you staying here. Get lost.' ouch"
TR_m3_Dax Soranus   Old Ebonheart, The Moth and Tiger   "Reign of the Septims doesn't make him cast something on the player unlike the other songs"

TR_m3_Nirungaer   Old Ebonheart, Nirungaer: Woodworker   "background says Merchant. should say something better related like the brickmason has?"
TR_m3_Uttrashi   Old Ebonheart, Tail Tales   "more loquatious greetings than khajiits but Background is default khajiitspeak"
TR_m3_Ra-Zihad   Old Ebonheart, Tail Tales   "same"
TR_m3_Larvs Dalori   Old Ebonheart, The Fetcher's Pawn   3168   2746   14402   "this guy sells only a ruby and two bracers? that mean something? or is he supposed to be legion instead of pawnbroker?"
TR_m3_Piand Morrick   Old Ebonheart, Piand Morrick's House   "why is he on the table? also seems to have vanilla EEC faction, has bloodmoon/raven rock specific topics, is there a TR version of the faction that he should have"
TR_m3_Izon   Old Ebonheart, Hostel of Stendarr's Mercy   "is this where freed slaves go? should dialogue indicate that?"
TR_m3_Dileru Dras   Old Ebonheart, Dileru Dras' House   "she really supposed to be Imperial Cult? (though not the first very-imperialised DE seen so far)"
TR_m3_Pelagius the Rat   Old Ebonheart, Ruma Soanix's Manor   "? maybe squeak less often? gets on one's nerves"

TR_m3_Arnulf   Old Ebonheart, Arnulf: Smith   "only 35 gold to barter with? srsly?"
~~TR_m3_Orto Rumaria   Old Ebonheart, Orto Rumaria: Outfitter    EDIT: nevermind, apparently that’s what an outfitter is in MW~~
TR_m3_Antio Florane00000000   Old Ebonheart, The Empress Katariah   -587   134   2   "'expert of dungeoneer' ..."
TR_m3_Ephaie Calicca00000000   Old Ebonheart, TEM Princess Morgiah   -178   306   130   "trainer? in a ship? perhaps only for legion?"
TR_m3_Ahtimbar   Old Ebonheart, Docks (7,-18)   "probably not supposed to be a sneak etc trainer"
TR_m3_Potemus Marolus   Old Ebonheart, Imperial Navy Command Post   "might need nolore"
TR_m3_Ingirid   Old Ebonheart, Gate: Western Tower   "probably not meant to be a trainer"
TR_sc_m3-771_note   " extra word ''I'm not going there down there'' "

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~~This EEC bug will also require a fix in this section~~

~~Also common_robe_03_b is misused~~

Saprius Entius to wrap up a vanilla quest

~~the one ring is here too~~

Numidium plans in the IAS

Error

Getting this error with the file enabled, feels really weird. Can't find a good reason, and have clean save files.

Edit: this disappeared when the OE file was set to last in the load order. I only have TR files active, and believe InDev may be to blame for this. It has three OE cells remaining in it.

Updated. 2017-04-18 (aka v

Uploaded a new file as per Atrayonis' request.

Version 2017-04-18 (aka v.0095)

What is actually updated,

What is actually updated, Rats?

An excellent question. I didn

An excellent question. I didn't include a change log, because I'm planning on taking this back for development after Atrayonis is finished with it.

The biggest thing is the new version of the belltower. I also fixed some of the bugs rot reported and decluttered the exterior for better performance.

I'm done! There were no

I'm done! There were no signposts in it, but I fixed a couple of outstanding bugs.

random hall of fighters bug reports as of 4/20

T_Imp_Furn_RugOctagonXp_02   Old Ebonheart, Guild of Fighters   3762   -579   11968   "caspering rug"
T_Imp_SetMw_I_RichRoof_01   Old Ebonheart, Guild of Fighters   4032   -192   12224   "caspering ceiling"
T_Imp_SetMw_I_RichRoof_01   Old Ebonheart, Guild of Fighters   4160   -448   12224   "caspering ceiling"
~~T_MwDe_SetInd_Cul2Empty~~    known issue
T_Imp_Furn_RugRoundXp_01   Old Ebonheart, Guild of Fighters   3724   -621   11712   "caspering rug"

Is there a bug for this? I

Is there a bug for this? I went over them and realigned stuff, so no caspering happens (fixed a hole in the roof while I was at it too.

Taking this back for: bug

Taking this back for:

bug fixing
merging the Oh What Customs! quest

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